Recording 'All Things Must Pass'

Someone posted a photo of Harrison in a different thread about a month or so back. The photo appeared to taken in a studio and I believe it cleary had Pete Drake in the photo and Billy Preston and certainly appeared to be from the "All Things Must Pass" sessions. I can't remember why the photo was posted.

There was a person in the front of the photo, apparently sitting down (lower than the others who were like behind a mixing desk) that generated some discussion. Someone asked if that person was Nicky Hopkins - but I thought that person looked like a young Peter Frampton. Someone else made the same comment.

It would probably be easy to find the photo.

I don't think Bobby Whitlock was in the photo.

If you look at the list above and cross reference the easily recognized people in the photo, I don't think it would be too hard to figure out there is a song that matches Frampton's recollection about playing acoustic guitar on the album.

I think Frampton is typically listed as someone who played on the Doris Troy album - so I'm somewhat surprised that anyone would tend to think he was being less than honest in this regard... he's done enough in his career without trying to pad his resume.

The story about Phil Collins and the bloody hands is hilarious. Poor Phil didn't know the other Phil (Spector) wasn't listening.

 

Perfect timing given my mention of this photo.

I think the fact that Whitlock says Drake stuff was done as overdubs and Frampton says his stuff was done as overdubs - pretty much at the same time... tends to explain why Whitlock doesn't remember Peter.

Do any of the Drake songs have acoustic? I noticed that some of them in the Voorman-based credits do not have Drake playing on the songs with Badfinger

And perhaps Voorman missed the Frampton work simply because it was done as an overdub (when he wasn't present)

 

This is a pic of Frampton taken in 1970 (Toledo Ohio). Doesn't resemble, IMO, the color picture of Drake, Harrison, Preston and Starr. Hell, doesn't even look like he started shaving yet (not quite 20 years old).

 

Gary Brooker once said he played (only) on 'My Sweet Lord' and 'Wah Wah'.

 

Methinks Alan White's "memories" may have been affected by the chemical amusement aids of the day!

 

(re. Wah-Wah) I think so too! The pass right after each guitar theme-break is SO Ringo:

>boom-tsh-boom-ta-da-da<

doesn't sound like typical Jim Gordon to me. Unless they played together on that one and he simply emulated what Ringo wanted to do... ...And unless I'm wrong of course!...

 

The October 2010 issue of Uncut magazine has a feature on George in 1970-1/All Things Must Pass, including a funny story about a practical joke George played on Phil Collins regarding his Conga playing!

It's part of a series of features Uncut are doing about 'life after the Beatles' for all 4. It started with Lennon in the August 2010 issue, last month was McCartney & next month is Ringo.

 

Just rechecked - yup, the fills on "Wah Wah" make it clear to me on this listen that it's Ringo. I retract my questioning of Simon Leng's musician list.

 

The 'All Things Must Pass' sessions - what a wonderful time in rock n' roll. Yoko needs to talk Olivia into stripping this down and then Paulie can tell her about compiling a 4 disc, 120-page book edition

 

Has anyone compiled a Mark Lewinhson-style recording details of the All Things Must Pass sessions? Listening to every take, marking down details, etc.

 

Now that would be great.

Perhaps a classic album DVD on the album. But again, too many people giving differing views on who played on what.

I'd be interested to hear Clapton's views on the album seeing as he played on pretty much every track.

 

I remember reading somewhere, I think in 'The Beatles After The Breakup' by Keith Badman, a classic albums on 'All Things Must Pass' was planned but, for whatever reason, George wasn't keen on doing it so the idea was scrapped.

 

A classic albums DVD would've been great. Unfortunately, we've now lost George and Billy since then. I don't think Phil Spector is gonna be ever available to do any interviews. But, we still have Eric Clapton, Klaus Voorman, Ringo Starr, Bobby Whitlock, etc. to compile a very good addition to the popular DVD series.

I hope Olivia does take up the 'All Things Must Pass' project in the near future. First assign someone to listen to all the session tapes and document every take. Then choose the best outtakes for bonus material. Have the Abbey Road remastering team take a shot at re-doing the original mix and someone like Giles Martin to remix the tapes for a Stripped Down version. At the same time, start work on the Classic Albums DVD. Finally, get all the packaging details right (original labels, liner notes, etc.) and work on compile various editions such as:

1) New Remastered Double CD - ~ list price $18.99
2) Remastered Album + Stripped Down - ~ list price $29.99
3) Deluxe Edition with 2 discs of remastered original mix, 2 disc of stripped down mix, 1 disc of demos & outtakes, 1 DVD with classic album doc and a 120-page hardcover book with all session details, etc. - list price ~$99.99 (maybe make it limited edition).
4) Stand alone DVD release - $14.99

I would assume this to make good amount of money for both Olivia and EMI.

 

crossroads69,
This is a wonderful idea you've brewed up. I hope the powers that be take notice.

 

I've got my credit card out ready for this

 

I'm not so sure they would make a lot of money. ATMP was a huge seller then, but George alienated many fans over the years and unless the new edition is *perfect*, I doubt it would shift a lot of copies. I'm all in favour of a stripped-down mix, but I know the original mix with all its flaws will always be the (my) reference.

 

Do you mean alienated many fans with the All Things Must Past 2000 reissue? I though George was still popular with fans for his honesty in Anthology
etc?
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I've often wondered why there's two versions of Isn't it a Pity on the album. It's a great song, but why twice? It's not like there was a shortage of material , it's not even a "bookend" song which might be more understandable, it's there twice in the middle of sides. Weird..

 

I would happily pony up the $$ for a package like that, crossroads69!

 

I mean alienated many fans with the weak material on his records, the Krshna stuff, his holier-than-thou attitude, etc.... I like some of this albums, but I'm definitely not fascinated or interested in his character.

 

Around that time George was very busy producing and/or playing on other people's songs.
Does anybody know when 'Encouraging Words' 'Doris Troy' and 'Radha Krishna Temple' were recorded?

 

It's a pity, because I find him a very interesting personality. He was the most articulate and possibly the most intelligent of the Beatles, regardless of his shortcomings.

 

UK release dates from the All Together Now book:

Encouraging Words/Doris Troy: both September 11, 1970
All Things Must Pass: November 30, 1970
Radha Krishna Temple: May 28, 1971

The book states Doris Troy was recorded between Dec 1969 and June 1970, and Encouraging Words between April and June 1970. No recording dates for the Krishna album.

 

As an outider, I find Lennon the most intelligent; wild but fast and fiercely clever in some of the TV footage I've seen. I always thought George was probably the most perceptive and the clearest thinker.

And back on topic, the world SERIOUSLY needs a comprehensive box set of All Things Must Pass sounding as good as it can, with all the songs mentioned earlier in the thread and the so-called in my collection anyway Beware of Abkco session.

 

I wouldn't pass judgment on their intelligence, I just don't like George's cynicism. John used his fame to promote his ideas, Paul was never political, Ringo played the drums. George was very critical of the western world, and rightly so, but he chose to criticize and preach in the desert. You see, where John tried to make a difference, however awkwardly, George seemed to never give a s***.

 

He wasn't more cynical than John.

As the other three did.

He rarely has been political, but saying he has never been so is a bit of stretch.

Doesn't 'The Concert For Bangladesh' ring a bell? Does it sound like something that somebody who doesn't give a s*** would do?
Of course, years later John was cynical enough to put into question George's and the other musicians motives and he even disowned his own Jerry Rubin/David Peel phase.

They had different beliefs and each acted according to their respective ideas. George was into krishnaism, not the "revolutionary" thing that John promoted.