Robert Johnson Confession

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  1. watchnerd

    watchnerd Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I have a confession to make:

    I absolutely respect the historical place Robert Johnson holds in American music and have listened to probably 2 hrs worth of his music.

    I appreciate it, I respect it...but I can't enjoy it effortlessly.

    Everything sounds so tinny that I have a hard time emotionally connecting to it they way I can with more modern blues recordings. I find myself listening with 'my head' and not 'my heart', which (IMHO) is missing the whole point of blues.

    It's like I'm listening to it in a music appreciation class, as opposed to just getting into it at a gut level.

    Does anyone else have this problem?

    And what did you do about it, if anything?
     
  2. Fortune

    Fortune Senior Member

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    Get the newest version/remaster. It's a whole different experience.
     
  3. 905

    905 Senior Member

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    I was just going to post this :agree:
     
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  4. Thurenity

    Thurenity Listening to some tunes

    Normally I wouldn't hit that like button that fast on reissue / remaster differences, but the Centennial Collection is pretty amazing.

    I think they used black magic to remaster these. :)
     
  5. watchnerd

    watchnerd Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I was about to ask which remaster, but that answered it.

    Thanks, just snatched it.
     
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  6. Beattles

    Beattles Senior Member

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    Gee, I clicked to find out if Robert Johnson actually did sell his soul to the devil!!!
     
  7. watchnerd

    watchnerd Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I think I'll know better after I listen to the remastering...
     
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  8. cublowell

    cublowell Forum Resident

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    This is true. I just recently upgraded from the original 1990 box set to the newest remaster, and what a difference! So many details are evident now, like the lingering vibrato on Johnson's vocals at the end of most phrases, or subtly picked bass notes that were previously almost drowned out. Johnson really used dynamics a lot more than most of his recorded peers, to full musical effect.

    And to the OP, what originally grabbed my attention was, during the slower take of "Come On In My Kitchen," when Johnson's slide sort of imitates rain falling down. It's not just a cool trick, it melts my heart every time. There's so much feeling in those phrases, just casually thrown in, it wakes you up to the fact that he's pulling that off in nearly every recording of him that exists. Amazing!
     
  9. MickAvory

    MickAvory Forum Resident

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    This past weekend, I visited all three of Robert Johnson's supposed graves in the Mississippi Delta. We went on the excursion with some friends who had been there before. I'm glad I went.

    Its a moving experience. Sort of like visiting Elvis' grave at Graceland.
     
  10. Fortune

    Fortune Senior Member

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    It makes a HUGE difference. No joke.
     
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  11. jumpinjulian

    jumpinjulian Forum Resident

    This. Not only does the vastly improved sound shine a light on all of the sublties of his performance, but the running order works much better too- you're not stuck listening to two versions in a row of the same song, which only added to the 'music appreciation class' feel of the old set.
     
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  12. chervokas

    chervokas Senior Member

    I listen to a lot of blues, gospel, jazz and country from the '20s and '30s, some of it in much better transfers than others, but regardless of the sound I've connecting to it emotionally hasn't ever been a problem for me, though I do wish the Soul Stirrers' great recordings of the '30s and '40s would get some transfers worthy of the greatness of the music.
     
  13. PaulKTF

    PaulKTF Senior Member

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  14. I thought maybe the confession of the guy who killed him was being made public. I recall a few years ago that some music writer claimed to have interviewed the poisoner but was holding it back until the guy had died for some reason.
     
  15. watchnerd

    watchnerd Forum Resident Thread Starter

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  16. Fortune

    Fortune Senior Member

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    Told 'ya. :)
     
  17. watchnerd

    watchnerd Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I've only heard the first few songs, can't wait to hear the rest.
     
  18. stereoptic

    stereoptic Anaglyphic GORT Staff

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    Where did you purchase them? HDTracks?
    I have the remaster of the King of the Delta Blues CD which sounds good to my ears.
     
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  19. tmtomh

    tmtomh Forum Resident

    The Centennial Collection offers great sound and the whole Johnson oeuvre for $15 - can't beat it!
     
  20. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Your host Your Host

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    Robert Johnson Confession

    I thought you were going to write that you killed him.
     
  21. Robin L

    Robin L Musical Omnivore

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    No, the devil is only interested in Record biz executives, CEO's, munitions experts, someone with clout. As far as the devil is concerned, Robert Johnson was small change.
     
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  22. bluej

    bluej Senior Member

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    Does anyone know if the Centennial Collection is the same mastering as the 2004 re masters of King of the Delta Blues Singers vols. 1 & 2? Those were a pretty huge leap in quality from the Sony/Columbia (I think) comp I had before which, if I remember correctly, was the same mastering as the early 90s box. Is the Centennial Collection another significant upgrade over the 2004 remasters or are they pretty comparable?

    Thanks!

    -Simon (bluej's son)
     
  23. Thurenity

    Thurenity Listening to some tunes

    I have the KOTDBS Vol 1 remaster - it's a night and day difference (the Centennial Collection being superior).

    You know horrid hissy sound at around 1:30 in on "Terraplane Blues"? Doesn't exist on the CC (that used to annoy the heck out of me). But just overall it's just a much better listen, even if it's it's not as "bassy", for the lack of the better word, as KOTDBS.

    I also owned the 1990 SONY set, which was my main intro to RJ and again the CC is flat-out the best versions of these songs I've ever heard.
     
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