Rolling Stones "Emotional Rescue" Song By Song Discussion

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  1. Exile On My Street

    Exile On My Street Senior Member

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    True! If not for drugs these Rolling Stones really could have been something special.
     
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  2. All Down The Line

    All Down The Line The Under Asst East Coast White Label Promo Man

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    A fun song that said to the Stones, let me go.
    Being light it floated away like a balloon.
     
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  3. All Down The Line

    All Down The Line The Under Asst East Coast White Label Promo Man

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    Me too!
    The lyric/vocal became very rhythmic live.
     
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  4. Mother

    Mother Forum Resident

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    How about the live version of She's So Cold? Apologies for the quality of the video but a great live performance:

     
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  5. All Down The Line

    All Down The Line The Under Asst East Coast White Label Promo Man

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    I have always prefered this to Let me go even if the lyrics are repetitive.
    All told i prefer the studio cut with that sizzling cymbal and Keith's rhythmic dynamics!
     
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  6. Zoot Marimba

    Zoot Marimba And I’m The Critic Of The Group

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    Send It To Me:
    We start out with some phaser tinged guitar that sets a nice funky reggae vibe, and the group locks in well, with Nicky adding some nice organ while Ronnie (?) plays some fairly fluid licks here and there. Also, Bill does some great bass on here. Best song on here hands down.

    Let Me Go:
    Pretty good blues rocker, has a nice groove to it. It’s filler, but killer filler.
     
  7. ohnothimagen

    ohnothimagen "Live music is better!" Thread Starter

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    I had Monday off, so I figured it would be a good idea to spend some quality time with the family (after I finished mixing my homemade jazz album, of course)...

    Anyway, onto one of the more, um, controversial songs on the album:


    Indian Girl

    Composers: Mick Jagger & Keith Richards
    Recording date: June 1979-January 1980 & April 1980
    Recording locations: Pathé Marconi Studios, Paris, France & Electric Lady Studios, New York City
    Producers: The Glimmer Twins Associate producer & chief engineer: Chris Kimsey
    Never performed onstage

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    Probable line-up:

    Drums: Charlie Watts
    Bass: Bill Wyman
    Acoustic guitars: Keith Richards
    Pedal steel guitar: Ron Wood
    Vocals: Mick Jagger
    Piano: Keith Richards
    Synthesizer: Bill Wyman
    Horns: (unknown musicians)

    Marimbas: Jack Nitzsche or Ian Stewart


    Little Indian girl, where is your mama?
    Little Indian girl, where is your papa?
    He's fighting in the war in the streets of Masaya

    All the children were dead
    Except for one girl who said
    Please Mr. Gringo, please find my father

    But I say:
    Lesson number one
    That I learned while I was young:
    Life just goes on and on, getting harder and harder

    Little Indian girls from Nueva Granada

    Ma says there's no food, there's nothing left in the larder
    Last piece of meat was eaten by the soldiers that raped her

    Lesson number one
    That you learn when you're young:
    Life just goes on and on, getting harder and harder
    Life just goes on and on, getting harder and harder

    Little Indian girls from Nueva Granada
    Little Indian girls from Nueva Granada

    Yes, I saw them today
    It's a sight I would say
    They're shooting down planes with their M-16s and with laughter

    Mr. Gringo, my father he ain't no Che Guevara
    And he's fighting the war on the streets of Masaya

    Little Indian girl, where is your father?
    Indian girl, where is your mama?
    They're fighting for Mr. Castro in the streets of Angola

    La-la-la-da, la-la-la-da


    TrackTalk


    (No, the song is not about a "cause" I believe in.) No, it's not like No Nukes in Central Park (laughs)... No. It's just... a very general kind of... It makes a change from the other songs which are mostly about trying to pick up girls. But I mean, you know, it's like I think one... one song that isn't about trying to pick up girls is (...) Even though I like to keep it as light-hearted as possible.

    - Mick Jagger, 1980
     
  8. ohnothimagen

    ohnothimagen "Live music is better!" Thread Starter

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    I would bet at least one of those acoustic guitars are Mick Jagger's, but I had I feeling I called it right when I thought Keith plays piano on the track. Nice pedal steel from Ronnie, as well as a good Wyman bass line.

    The lyrics and overall theme for "Indian Girl" tend to get a lot of stick, though. Perhaps if Mick had sung "Nicaraguian Girl" it might have made more sense. This was the period in which the CIA was getting up to their not-so-covert shenanigans in Central America (Veil by Bob Woodward gives some good background on this) so you have to sort of look at "Indian Girl" in the spirit of some of the Stones' other "social commentary"/"political" songs, I think. how they framed it as a country song was an interesting choice of arrangements, though. I like it.
     
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  9. Rose River Bear

    Rose River Bear Senior Member

    How did I miss this thread. :shake:
     
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  10. Safeway 1

    Safeway 1 "mad, bad, and dangerous to know"

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    Call me crazy bit I always loved "Indian Girl" So much I dialed up the extended version.
     
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  11. Purple Jim

    Purple Jim Senior Member

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    Indian Girl - I keep having to go to YouTube to refresh my memory of nearly all these tracks. I quite like this sad little reflection on war and poverty but it's ruined by the horrible and totally unecessary synthesiser and mariachi trumpets in the background).
    > Makes me think of the photo that is in the media at the moment of that poor little Mexican girl being seperated from her parents. :cry:
     
  12. ohnothimagen

    ohnothimagen "Live music is better!" Thread Starter

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    We're only halfway there, RRB, plenty of time for you to play catch up!
    Horns arranged by Arif Mardin, who also did the arrangement on "Melody", if memory serves.
    Yeah...probably best for the purposes of this discussion (not to mention forum guidelines) that we not go there...
     
  13. Dean R

    Dean R Forum Resident

    This is another one of those Doc Pomus - Mort Shuman / Drifters influenced songs that Mick and Keith write all the time - Waiting On A Friend would be the next take on this theme.

    I pretty much like them all, and this is no exception.
     
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  14. BDC

    BDC Forum Resident

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    Indian Girl- A good ballad, I really like it, 2nd best track
    Let me go- Agreed, best song on the album
    Send it to me- Reggae feel, good tune IMO
    Summer Romance- Musical territory well explored on Some girls, not bad
    Dance- OK for what it is, always thought it was a bit of a slopfest, and passe as music at the time.

    Really bad album cover and accompanying poster, which I must admit was hung up on my wall for a few years. The album cover felt thrown together and gave the same impression for the rest of the album. The music on the album IMO doesn't really having any great tunes or the cohesiveness of classic albums. That said, the album is classic now just being old Stones.... A better cover could of went a long way...
     
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  15. All Down The Line

    All Down The Line The Under Asst East Coast White Label Promo Man

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    Iam happy being in the potential minority as i have always liked this musically. It is a nice breather from recycled chuckleberry meets newave via punk guitar fests. Not that there's anything wrong with a small dose of that.
     
  16. Parachute Woman

    Parachute Woman Forum Resident

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    Indian Girl
    I never understood the hate for this one. Is it the lyrical content and the fact that it feels a bit thematically out of place on this party record? I dunno. I always liked it. Nice melody, nice arrangement, good song. I like the mariachi horns, which are used very sparingly and I think it's a very nice breather at the end of Side 1. People complain that the Stones were too lightweight in the '80s. People complain when the Stones record a song with serious lyrics. :confused:
     
  17. John Fell

    John Fell Forum Survivor

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    Indian Girl - A country sounding ballad and not my cup of tea.
     
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  18. Duke Fame

    Duke Fame Sold out the Enormodome

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    Eh. My least favorite song on the album. Taken by itself it's not bad, but to me it's a lesser version of "Far Away Eyes" which works way better on Some Girls than "Indian Girl" does on this album. It's still the Stones, so 3/5.
     
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  19. All Down The Line

    All Down The Line The Under Asst East Coast White Label Promo Man

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    Exactly
     
  20. ohnothimagen

    ohnothimagen "Live music is better!" Thread Starter

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    Yeah, the Stones are sorta damned if they do, damned if they don't, aren't they?
    I'll take "Indian Girl" over "Far Away Eyes" any day.
     
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  21. curbach

    curbach Some guy on the internet

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    Count me in as an “Indian Girl” fan (and not a fan of “Far Away Eyes” either). This one seems to regularly show up in “Worst of the Stones” lists. I don’t really understand Stones fans :shrug:

    So side 1 has 2 songs I really like (Dance, Indian Girl), 1 song that’s ok (Let Me Go), and 2 songs I really hate (Summer Romance, Send It To Me). That’s about par for the course for a post 1973 Stones album as far as I’m concerned.
     
  22. California Couple

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    I think in the CD age it sounds better if you switch Girl and Boys. That way you hear most of the fast songs first and then you get the slow songs which build up to Cold.
     
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  23. Terry

    Terry Senior Member

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    Is this supposed to be funny?
     
  24. Zoot Marimba

    Zoot Marimba And I’m The Critic Of The Group

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    Indian Girl:

    We start with an acoustic guitar to set the mood, along with a melancholic pedal steel. The lyrics capture the tragic situation that plagued the Natives, although I could defintely do without the mariachi horns, those are terrible and completely kill the mood. Otherwise, a nice country mood that actually broke my heart, I was full on Crying Indian (until the mariachi horns at least).
    Good song. I’ll say it: if Keith sang this, people would be going on about Indian Girl, like they do about all those bulls*** Keith ballads on later albums.
     
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  25. Parachute Woman

    Parachute Woman Forum Resident

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    Hmm...now, that's interesting. I do like the idea of "Indian Girl" pairing up with "Down in the Hole" and having the second side be mostly chilled out. I'll have to give that a try as a playlist and see what I think!
     
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