Runout Groove Messages

"Drive On" by Mott (without "the Hoople" when Ian Hunter left). Has "Eh, drive on" in the runout groove to end side one.

Side two ends with a male and female screaming, then groaning until you lift the tonearm. Scared the (bleep) outta me when I first heard it (some 30 years ago). When I played it for my kids, they both jumped.

 

Motorpsycho's Roadwork 1 has no grooves in what would be the run-out area. The first half of K9 Suite ends with a locked groove over an an inch away from the label. It has a high pitched sound ensuring anyone who might have drifted off on the music to jump up and switch to side 2 immediately!

 

Ah yes, telling one what one can do with their atom bomb...

 

As someone who already had quite a reputation for including various types of message in his work, Armchair Theatre by Jeff Lynne features no less than FOUR distinctly separate hidden pieces! The first is actually a short instrumental called Spaceship/Gulls according to the liner notes in the Japanese release, followed by Jeff saying "it's still going, ya know" in a rather hushed tone. Next, there's a further brief sample of bells, although the CD and cassette versions of this album lack the fourth and final section, which is a series of clicks designed to emulate a record coming to its end. However, the last portion isn't looped... or at least I don't recall this being the case (I just have my CD edition these days, unfortunately).

 

Two others which I don't think have been mentioned,

On Yazoo's second album You and Me Both, Side one ends with somebody saying "I think you should do the first one again Vince" and the lock groove then consists of an endless loop of laughter.
Also side one of BA Robertson's album Intial Success ends with a locked groove which repeats the words "Let there be drums".

On the cassette versions of both albums, the dialogue that makes up the lock groove is only heard once.

 

Please specify, which pressings are those? What label? What year? What country? What barcode on the deadwax? I only have Beatles "Sgt. Pepper" and Abba "Super trouper" (canadian), I would like to have more examples. Thanks.

 

I think if you find Fly By Night with the Mercury "skyline" label and the lyric sheet, and On The Threshhold Of A Dream with the lyric booklet, those pressings will probably have the lock grooves.

In the case of On the Threshhold I can verify that later pressings do not have the lock groove (the noise fades out instead).

 

My copies of Who sell out on classic records has the lockout on both the mono and stereo.

 

Is that the 1st UK pressing or another country/year of edition?

 

Thanks. I'll probably search among the used records in a store.

 

Yay! Found "The Threshold of A Dream" and "The Who Sell Out" with locked grooves!

I wonder what would be the top ten of these locked grooves. Sgt. Pepper gibberish would probably be No. 1

 

On my American pressing there's no such words in the loop, there's some queer music playing. Which pressing has words "Track records" in the loop?

 

How difficult is it to cut something like this? Even if you weren't trying to get the loop to match up in any sonically pleasing way but just wanted to have sound at the parts where the needle is led up to the lock groove and then also in the lock groove, all you'd have to do is not cut the feed to the cutterhead and try not to cut back over the groove again by too much, right?

 

panda bear's latest LP, Tomboy, finished with a crowd cheer/chant. I think its for the song "Benfica" which is a Lisbon soccer team. Noah lives in Lisbon, so I'm guessing it's the Benfica fans cheering/chanting.

 

Moody Blues-On Threshold of a Dream UK pressings have continuous music in the runout groove on Side 2.

 

And does that No-No-No go smoothly when in the locked groove; or is it messed up at the point where the groove joins itself?
What I mean is does it keep the same pace within the locked groove as outside of it?

 

Mine plays smoothly with an even pace. (I can only take so much "No-No-No" though...)

 

Um... Probably wasn't an easy job to get it flawless with all-analogue mastering. Is yours the 1-st pressing or later?

 

Will have to check - it's a good, early pressing.

 

Gillan - Nervous (locked repeating bass note), side 2 of Glory Road. 'Porky Prime Cut' and 'Waiting for number three' in the deadwax.

Virgin V2171-8 A4/B2

 

I just discovered an accidental one. I played the two copies I had of Todd Rundgren's Something/Anything? to determine whether I need to get the Chris Bellman-mastered Rhino lp (of the two I have, the MFSL creamed the blue/red Get Back reissue). I noticed that side 4 of the Get Back version had next to no deadwax, so I put on the last cut to check for IGD. To my surprise, the song "Slut" never quite gets to the "Whew!" that ends the song (where Our Hero presumably drops dead). I just hear that last guitar swell over and over.

"I Went to the Mirror" ends oddly too. It doesn't leak into the locking groove, but the song ends before the fadeout, in the middle of the line about going bald. It's as if the cutting engineer saw that space was running out and hit the runout groove and muted the tape.

Thinking of getting rid of this one and getting the Rhino.

 

I ebayed the UK original - true, absolutely flawless inner groove! That was probably cut by means of computer. First try - and flawless result! (unlike Sgt.Pepper)

 

Unless I'm mistaken the original pressing of the UK version did continue indefinitely as it was cut into the run-out groove.

 

If that is indeed the case, then that is VERY cool! We just got a simulated cut here in the US.

 

The 7"single (45rpm) of Joan Jett & The Blackhearts Fake Friends/Nitetime does have a locked groove at the end of side 2 (final chords of Nitetime); however, that groove is NOT concentric, and there's no runout thru the deadwax (that's where the deadwax is truly dead!). That's probably a locked groove in the American style since the majority of Americans use automatic TTs that won't let a central locked groove play.

BTW I wonder how the very first gramophone records ended(if there was no concentric or eccentric groove). Did they end like described above, or did the groove path simply disrupt?