Runout Groove Messages

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  1. LandHorses

    LandHorses I contain multitudes

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    San Francisco 1980's punk band Flipper had a song called "Brainwash" that was the b-side of a 45.......it was a small snippet of a song that repeated over about 8-9 times......the final time, it ended on the inner groove.
     
  2. Folknik

    Folknik Forum Resident

    The first edition of Jimmy Buffett's double live You Had to be There has the applause at the end of Side 4 continuing through the run-out groove until you lift the needle. Curt Boettcher's There's an Innocent Face has racecar noise at the end of "Bobby California" on Side 1 continuing in the run-out groove. The last song on Side 2, "Wufferton Frog" has chirping frogs in the run-out groove.
     
  3. mr_mjb1960

    mr_mjb1960 I'm a Tarrytowner 'Til I die!

    A video on You Tube,concerning the "Sgt. Pepper's" Runout....Forwards,it says "Never Could See Any Other Way"...However,when reversed,it says "Will Paul Be Back As Superman?" Listen to THIS,if You dare!
     
  4. pbuzby

    pbuzby Senior Member

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    In his Rolling Stone interview from 1974 Paul commented on the theory that it was something more objectionable than that.
     
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  5. Andy Smith

    Andy Smith .....Like a good pinch of snuff......

    "Eh.... Drive on!" on Mott's 'Drive On' album.
     
  6. fab4

    fab4 Forum Resident

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    France
    Pearls Before Swine's Balaklava has a runout groove at the end of side 2, that keeps repeating the Trumpeter Landfrey's Charge of the Light Brigade. Before that runout groove , we can hear the tape of the album playing reverse and fast. So the album starts and ends with the same Trumper Landfrey. It is well done and delivering quite a dark and pessimist message.

    There is an other album by Pearls Before Swine / Tom Rapp which has a runout groove repeating, but I can not remember which album.
     
  7. melo85

    melo85 Forum Resident

    I wonder if that endless drip-drip-drip was intentional or just accidental. The timing of the sound in the loop isn't perfect - the dripping doesn't keep its original pace after it hits the loop (unlike Def Leppard's No! No! No! which is one of the greatest examples of a locked groove ending). Now I'm not surprised that the gimmick was not repeated on subsequent LP issues of the album. Sorry for the spoiler to those who yet didn't hear it. :)

    If, however, this album should be digitally re-cut one day, maybe they might get a better drip timing by a computer.
     
  8. melo85

    melo85 Forum Resident

    The single "Fake Friends/Ninetime" of 1983, 45 rpm. Not a regular lock groove, however.
     
  9. pbuzby

    pbuzby Senior Member

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    Probably due to the complexities of vinyl pressing. Similarly, in my experience it seems a lot of pressings of Moody Blues Threshold Of A Dream are offcenter so the "drone" doesn't maintain a consistent pitch when it reaches the outgroove.
     
  10. melo85

    melo85 Forum Resident

    Or maybe the problem is the dripping itself - its pace will not fit into one turn of a record no matter how hard you calculate.
    My copy of Threshold Of A Dream has got the inner groove OK.
     
  11. Ayshpaysh

    Ayshpaysh Forum Resident

    Location:
    Sydney, Australia
    Better late than never...
    If you listen to the funny music in the groove of your US Who Sell out, it's actually the whole band (with Pete prominent) saying "Track Records". But it's heavily muffled, distorted and processed.
    I thought the same about my Track mono till I read about it somewhere here.
    The unprocessed take of them saying Track Records over and over and beginning to crack up laughing is a bonus hidden track on the Who Sell Out Deluxe Edition.
     
  12. melo85

    melo85 Forum Resident

    Thanks for the info.;)

    P. S. I wonder if there's somewhere an unprocessed version of Sgt. Pepper Inner Groove - before that tape was cut, mixed up, and then spliced back together.
     
  13. TheLazenby

    TheLazenby Forum Resident In Memoriam

    Location:
    Pittsburgh
    Not audio actually cut into the runout groove, but a funny etching....

    I just noticed that one side of the 12" single packaged with the "Caligula" soundtrack (of the movie's disco 'love theme' - that doesn't appear in the movie, thankfully) has the tiny inscription "SEX SELLS." Well, the movie certainly proved that, eh? (Also in the same enormous runout groove - the side is only 3:40 long - is the unexplained "TONI'S FIRST".)
     
  14. weaselone

    weaselone Well-Known Member

    and the march of the drums at the end of Pyromania!!
     
  15. Heckto35

    Heckto35 Forum Resident

    I just went on a record store run today and got Lenny White's Big City album. Both sides have runout groove music on them. As well as the Venusian Summer album which was mentioned.
     
  16. Spsesq

    Spsesq Forum Resident

    Location:
    New Jersey
    Just listened to the Boomtown Rats album "The fine art of Surfing". Side 2 after the song "When the night comes", there is silence as the record is over then the run out groove has a voice that says" that concludes episode 3, we will return shortly" then some singing voices. Pretty funny
     
  17. I've just noticed one for the first time on an album I was familiar with since 1973! At the end of side 2 of "Focus III", by the group Focus, the quiet guitar feedback concluding Answers? Questions! Questions? Answers! gives way to some fake laughter in the back, extending into the runout area and ending with or merging into some short bit of weird noise. It's not locked (won't repeat), and it's very quiet, so you need to turn it up quite loud or use headphones to hear it.

    My source is the original US LP set cut by Bob Ludwig.

    (PS: That's some mean, rocking piece of guitar workout there on that album side, BTW!)
     
  18. Denny Anderson

    Denny Anderson Forum Resident

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    Indiana
    Ha! I always thought it was saying "nibbled to death by a copy," but figured that wasn't correct. I never knew what an Okapi was.
     
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