SHM CD In FLAC

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by bluto69, May 19, 2011.

  1. bluto69

    bluto69 New Member

    Location:
    milan, italy
    Does FLAC files originated from SHM CD sounds like the original cd or they need the SHM support to play different?
  2. mwheelerk

    mwheelerk One Or Two Years And A Couple Of Changes

    Location:
    Phoenix
    SHM is not a special sound ‘process’ such as SACD, HDCD, or DVD-Audio but simply a material and manufacturing process. It is about the materials and has nothing to to with the mastering, mixing or processing. So the short answer is that a SHM-CD imported as a FLAC file is no different than a FLAC file imported by a standard manufactured CD. Again, it is a material manufacturing process and not a audio coding or decoding process.


    "Super High Material (SHM-CD); a Compact Disc manufacturing process for some pre-recorded compact discs since 2006 in Japan only that is claimed to have improved sound."
  3. Laservampire

    Laservampire (╯°□°)╯︵ ןıo ǝʞɐus

    SHM is just the material the CD is made of, it's not a different format. Same 1's and 0's as the regular remaster usually. Unless it's a unique mastering, SHM CDs are not worth the money.
  4. mwheelerk

    mwheelerk One Or Two Years And A Couple Of Changes

    Location:
    Phoenix
    :thumbsup:
  5. bluto69

    bluto69 New Member

    Location:
    milan, italy
    Many thanks for your reply that confirmed what i was imagining...
  6. PanaPlasma

    PanaPlasma Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Belgium, Europe
    SHM-cd's are only interesting if you're playing them through cd-players.



    Most of the shm-cd's use the latest UK or US remaster. E.g. Eagles, Paul McCartney's "Band on the run".

    "Hotel California" shm-cd flac-rip will exactly sound the same through your pc, as the 5€ European / US standard cd.


    SHM-SACD's are mostly "flat transfers", so those will sound different because they don't use the latest mastering. Only playable on sacd-players, and you can't rip them ... Some titles have outstanding soundquality.
  7. BZync

    BZync Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Not knowing what SHM stood for, I assumed it meant "Steve Hoffman Mastered". Boy was I off.
  8. Jim B.

    Jim B. Forum Resident

    Location:
    UK
    Has no-one worked out how to properly rip an SACD yet? It's just data on a disc isn't it. If you can rip a DVD you should be able to do a SACD.
  9. carrolls

    carrolls Forum Resident

    Location:
    Dublin
    It kind of can be done with an converted Oppo SACD player. But it is only PCM you end up with. First, you have to solder in a circuit board that will extract the DSD from an Oppo player, convert it to PCM, and send it out via a coax connection to your DAC or computer for recording.
    You would really need to be into this music to have to go through this. Just buy another copy of the SACD.:D
  10. TheRimeOfIcarus

    TheRimeOfIcarus Active Member

    Infact, I hear that paper discs have better sound quality because the 1's and 0's are on natural materials :shh:
  11. Vivaldinization

    Vivaldinization Active Member

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    There's a guy out there who does this, which is the only thing that makes this "exclusives on SHM-SACD" phenomenon even remotely bearable.
  12. PanaPlasma

    PanaPlasma Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Belgium, Europe
    Well I don't know ...

    Quality of cd material is really bad in Europe and USA today.

    Compare the old West-German Dire Straits with new cd releases ...

    The old ones were far more solid, just like "shm".

    I have bought a few cd's recently which had "read errors" before they have been played once!

    I wasn't even able to rip one of them!

    My 1985-Dire Straits copy still does this perfectly!

    European and USA majors, just want to grab as much as they can. They don't care about soundquality, quality of carriers,... at all.

    Maybe that's why "physical carriers" in Japan still are popular?

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