Sinatra / Capitol 180g LPs: Wee Small Hours, Come Fly with Me, Come Dance with Me*

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by randy9700, Oct 28, 2009.

  1. MLutthans

    MLutthans 70mm Gort Staff

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    .....and mandolin..... and in those very opening few seconds, HARP! It's a revelatory mix; I just wish the tone were a little better and there was a little less reverb. Cool listen, though.

    Matt
  2. bonjo

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    Same thing happened on one of the new Beach Boys LPs.

    Clearly the art department is not in touch with the mastering team. Beautiful covers though.
  3. Ryan

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    I love the tuba.
  4. Todd Fredericks

    Todd Fredericks Forum Resident

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    So are these thumbs up or down?
  5. Greg1954

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    You love Billy May, hallmarks of his style.

    People nowadays go on and on about Sinatra/ Nelson Riddle, but May should be right in there alongside them.
  6. You need the 1990 3-cd set on Capitol that Ron Furmanek put together.
    Great sound, nice track selection. Some tracks remixed by Larry Walsh.

    "The Capitol Years"

    http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:jpftxqe5ldje

    Attached Files:

  7. Ryan

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    I have several May albums. They are a trip.
  8. MLutthans

    MLutthans 70mm Gort Staff

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    Had they done more together, I think that would be the case. May did 3 albums on Capitol with Sinatra, of which only 1 was totally May's work. (Of the 24 songs on the two other albums, 16 were May arrangements, IIRC.)
  9. MLutthans

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    I don't own the WEE SMALL HOURS, but it uses reverb-added tapes and has the wrong track on the end of side one, so to me, that's a "no."

    I do have the COME FLY WITH ME. All the packaging says stereo, including the label, but it's the reverb-y, dull mono mix, which while an interesting listen (if you are used to the stereo mix), is not an audio picnic, so: Yes for variety, no on pure sound-quality terms.

    I also have the COME DANCE WITH ME, and it's not bad, although the stereo mix is significantly folded in.

    You can hear clips of all three 2009 pressings -- in context with other pressings -- here, here, and here. You may have to poke around a bit, but the clips are there. Have a listen for yourself.

    Matt
  10. Another Side

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    You made me go back and compare my gray Label mono Come Fly with Me to the new would be "stereo" reissue. And while the gray label is a much more smooth and warm experience, the reissue has its charm. It's not as if one can go and buy a CD of the mono mix of this great LP. And it's tricky to get a clean copy of a 50's original.

    Yes, it's got a bit too much echo, but has a nice organic sound to it.
  11. MLutthans

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    Agreed, basically. As I mentioned a couple of days ago in this post, I've been playing a CD-R I made from the 2009 LP, and definitely enjoying it, but I wouldn't call it "audiophile quality" like the sticker boasts.

    Matt
  12. Ryan

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    And tuba :D
  13. sharedon

    sharedon Forum Zonophone

    I'm saying thumbs up on the CFWM mono reissue; what Matt and Another Side say - maybe not audiophile, but it sure has its charms and it's great for another way to listen to the album. Got it for 18 bucks on Amazon, well worth it for the fun! The tubas. Love 'em.
  14. MLutthans

    MLutthans 70mm Gort Staff

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    ....and if you dig tuba, the Billy May album that has tuba in spades on both mono and stereo is COME SWING WITH ME from 1961.
  15. Ryan

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    Of course :) I bought a (abridged) 70s blue label version though..:realmad:
  16. jamesanderson

    jamesanderson New Member

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    i just got this email

    PRODUCT ISSUES
     
    Frank Sinatra "In The Wee Small Hours" (50999 6 88654 1 2 – Vinyl)
    and "Come Fly With Me" (50999 6 88653 1 3 – Vinyl)
    have been recalled due to a manufacturing error.
    Please do not continue to solicit these titles.
    exact problem:
    come fly with me- mono recording in stereo packaging
    In the wee small hours- track 8 is wrong on the vinyl.
  17. MLutthans

    MLutthans 70mm Gort Staff

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    Thanks for posting that, James.

    I see that there is now a UK vinyl reissue of COME FLY WITH ME. Anybody know if this is the same as the US version, i.e., mono?

    Matt
  18. Bob F

    Bob F Forum Resident

    The catalog no. shown in that eBay listing is the same as the US bar code. (Which doesn't answer the question, I know. :))
  19. bonjo

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    I wonder if they'll recall the Beach Boys Summer Days for the same reason (stereo cover, mono LP).
  20. John76

    John76 Active Member

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    I discovered this thread after picking up the Capitol Vaults version of "In Wee Small Hours of the Morning". I have to say that I'm very impressed with the quality of pressing and fidelity of this re-issue. I haven't seen copies of this particular recording for years at my local used record store so I thought I'd give this one a punt. It's very good IMO and I look forward to more releases. This album contained all 16 tracks from the original recording.
  21. MMM

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    I wonder if they redid both sides for the 2nd issue, and if they used the same source or not.

    Is the 2nd issue of COME FLY still mono (hopefully)?
  22. John76

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    The Wee copy I purchased yesterday I think was the original* because track 8 is still the wrong song. I gave it another listen today and it's really quite nice. I don't have another copy of this album to compare with but it has a very detailed and well rounded sound to it. I've got most of his albums and this one is quite special. Hope they release some of the Swingin' albums as I would be curious how they turn out.

    [*MOD EDIT for clarification: Original run of the 2009 reissue]
  23. aoxomoxoa

    aoxomoxoa The faster we go the rounder we get

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    What exactly is the mixup on Wee Small Hours?
  24. bonjo

    bonjo Well-Known Member

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    It replaces the last track on side one with a song off of "A Swingin' Affair" (I think).

    What a mess.
  25. Ryan

    Ryan Magnetic tape

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    So imagine ending side one with "I Guess I'll Have to Change My Plan"

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