Sinatra / Capitol Sound Quality and General Discussion - "No One Cares" (1959 LP)*

OOOOH LA LA! It works! Thanks. Whaddya mean no feedback? Lots of us have openly referred to this guide (in previous versions) openly in these threads as THE Go-To Guide for best sounding Capitol Sinatra albums.

 

All I can say is, as usual, job well done. I've been pretty busy these last few months and I never even got around to trying the blind test, but I really did like the read of the completed page.

As I said earlier in the thread, this was my first "real" Sinatra album and because of that, it's been my favourite since. We can talk until the cows come home about OTL v. NOC or whatever else you want to compare it to, but at the end of the day it comes down to how the album speaks to you. The same can be said about the sound. As much as I love the best sounding release, I'd rather listen to it through an AM broadcast than not to listen to it at all.

Either way, and I know I speak for a few of us in this thread, whenever I see a different pressing of an album I already have 3 or 4 times over, I buy it anyway. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What I love most about these pages is more the history of the recording. All the different details that get dug up just make these albums that much more real, at least for me they do. Knowing all the arrangements, how they were set up, how they were recorded, and then to close your eyes as the lead in song comes on and you can almost picture everything there. Maybe I'm getting a bit ahead of myself here but in all honesty, although I don't have the time to do it as often as I'd like, when I sit down for a listening session (and I mean one where you really sit and focus on the music), all this information really just makes the album that much more.

 

FRANK SINATRA - No One Cares - Amazon.com Music

The back cover photo says Remastered by Larry Walsh and (I think) copyright 1991. But the track listing says 1999 digital remaster.

I've seen on this forum that the Larry Walsh remaster is the one to buy. Is this that one?

 

Thanks! I see also that it's a preorder with an October 13 release date. Are the Walsh versions being reissued?

 

I've noticed this Amazon.com listing, and it's fishy. First of all, it is newly listed as a pre-order for an "Import," but with the same product code (ASIN) as the existing UK/EU CD. (That one is the 1991 Larry Walsh version.) However, I can find no other worldwide Amazon store which is releasing this in October. And, it is MUCH too early to be announcing a new October release; Capitol/UMe would never do so four months in advance, and would certainly not yet have printed covers to display. Finally, there are no product details listed at US Amazon (e.g. the record label).

My guess: This is some other product which has been assigned the wrong ASIN code.

As Matt surmised, the listed 1999 digital samples are from the Norberg CD (from the 2000 Concepts box set and 2002 EOTC disc), which are the current available versions at US Amazon.

Note that the Walsh CD version has never gone out of print in the UK. See these posts:
» You can never have too much Sinatra, please help with the following CDs?
» Frank Sinatra - Best Sounding CDs?

But if you are buying this album for the first time, get the MFSL hybrid SACD:
» Frank Sinatra - No One Cares (Numbered EDITION Hybrid SACD) | Shop Music Direct

 

Thanks! I really appreciate you sharing your knowledge.

 

My copy of the MFSL LP is cut off center. Does anyone else's copy have this problem? Shouldn't it affect every copy made with the same stamper?

I haven't noticed any crazy pitch changes. But I hate seeing my tonearm sway back and forth, especially on a record from MFSL.

 

Got a few more Sinatra records today, one of these was this album in mono from the dutch DMM series. Sounds wonderful, prefer the mono mix over the stereo mix for this album, so I couldn't be happier! Silent vinyl and very dynamic sound on this record, a keeper for sure!

 

Folks, I just played my "No one cares" DMM Alan Dell pressing from Holland.
The sleeve cover says Stereo and so does also the label say. But here it comes:
Side one is Mono(!) and now wait for it: Side two is Stereo!!!!!!??????
At first I thought I was still drunk, but I am NOT!
Can anyone check his DMM pressing if available?
This means I only have half of each version!!!
Good reason to buy the original mono pressing and the MFSL stereo as well!

 

It's always a good idea to buy the MFSL as a rule, in any case.
Buy two copies.
One to own, the other to listen to.

 

Matt you are AMAZING!!! You are perfectly right about the matrix!
Side one: 1852921 MA 2 D
Side two: 2601411 B1 D

It sure is some artifact in some way

Wonder if anyone will find the same goofed version in his collection!
Check it out folks! I didn't even realize after all these years.

 

Although Side one has the mono matrix the label still reads stereo. So they goofed in any case.

I also have the Alan Dell DMM "Come fly with me" which reads Stereo on the cover and has the mono vinyl inside. But that's a more common goof and at least the label reads mono.

 

Always nice to hear Nelson's little arrangement correction on "I'll never smile again". Listen to the part "that our romance is through". Suddenly you hear the beautiful glorious Riddle strings coming out of blue! A little glimpse on how the album would have sounded with Nelson.

 

IF you are referring to No One Cares, the arranger is Gordon Jenkins.

 

Nelson conducted the session. I think that's to what he's referring.

 

Of course....my bad.

 

Friedwald says in his book that Gordy made an harmonic mistake in "I'll never smile again" and Nelson corrected that mistake and rearranged those few bars. Of course it is Gordy's arrangement and yet you can HEAR Nelson's corrections CLEARLY. Go ahead and listen to the few bars "that our romance is through" and you'll hear Nelson's typical string sound! Could have been right out of the "Nice'n'easy" album soundwise!