Sinatra on Columbia (Official/Authorized Releases)*

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by ShockControl, Dec 11, 2011.

  1. paulmock

    paulmock Forum Resident

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    IMHO, it is a waste of time to listen to anything Mr. S recorded on Columbia on anything other than the Big Blue Box and what was released on CD afterwards. As much as I love playing records, there is NO comparison sound-wise to what Deider, Chuck and Co. did when they lovingly redid that era of Sinatra recordings.
     
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  2. roda12

    roda12 Active Member

    True that's the cream of the crop! But on certain Columbia records his voice sounds so beautiful and full. And I think that was the sound Chuck and Co. were after.
     
  3. Bob F

    Bob F Forum Resident

    […] unless you want to hear bongos added to “Day by Day” on the Come Back to Sorrento LP and 45 reissue. ;)
     
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  4. Bob F

    Bob F Forum Resident

    I think what they were after was the sound of the original recordings, not necessarily the way it was “futzed” with on the records.
     
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  6. paulmock

    paulmock Forum Resident

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    The day I long to hear that mess, please have them come and carry me away!!!!!
     
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  7. wvk3

    wvk3 Active Member

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    True, although at one time (still?) this set was the only place to find the first version of "Soliloquy" as originally issued. Discussion at SFF here:

    The different "Soliloquy" recordings

     
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  8. roda12

    roda12 Active Member

    Exactly! But some records really have the good sound that we are used to from Chuck and Co.
    I knever knew until I got some good ones recently!
     
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  9. Simon A

    Simon A Arrr!

    Exactly the reason why I hunted down the 32DP Japan CD release. :)
     
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  10. paulmock

    paulmock Forum Resident

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    FWIW....and I have NO horse in the race...
    It looks like someone is breaking up his "Big Blue Box" of the complete Columbia recordings on eBay. So, if you have an issue with an individual CD from the set now is the time to pick up a replacement.
     
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  11. James_S888

    James_S888 Forum Resident

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    Hey, all the Sinatra experts. Does anyone have this one? - Sinatra Plus - on the Fontana label.
    Is there any verdict on the sound quality?
    It's all original mono I think.
     
  12. James_S888

    James_S888 Forum Resident

    or this one?:
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    The soundtrack to Higher And Higher - The Sinatra Show (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack)
    It's vinyl. Sinatras second movie outing.
     
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  13. MLutthans

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    There may be some exceptions, but I doubt this LP is one of them.
     
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  14. James_S888

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    The sound quality I found remarkably good. Good enough for when I put it on to go "hey, this is really good" and go have a closer look at the record.
    It's supposed to be a UK issue, though mine is a French pressing. It has a lot of tracks in common with a Sinatra CD I've had for years, a French issued jazz masters CD. Also - for a CD - very good sound quality. Flat transfers by the sound of it. It used to get played a lot because of the nice open sound.

    This is a bunch of stuff starting with "All or nothing at all" with Harry James and his orchestra from 1939 up to "My Blue Heaven" with George Siravo from 1950.

    Virtually all of it - with a few exceptions - is with Axel Stordahl and his orchestra, all through the '40s.

    Quite frankly, it sounds great. My copy sounds like original mono, no dicking around with the sound, no compression, no funky EQ.
    Also quite frankly, I was surprised. This will get played again.

    The problem I have with the "Big Blue Box" is, well, they are CDs.
     
  15. James_S888

    James_S888 Forum Resident

    And has anyone heard "Higher And Higher - The Sinatra Show"?
    That one I discovered recently, it hasn't arrived yet, so I haven't played it.
     
  16. James_S888

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    And thanks to MLutthans for moving the post and question to the right thread :)
     
  17. paulmock

    paulmock Forum Resident

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    @MLutthans If you ever run in to any please point them out. THANKS!
     
  18. ShockControl

    ShockControl Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I LOVE the bongo version!
     
  19. Ronald Sarbo

    Ronald Sarbo Forum Resident

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    "Sinatra Plus" on Fontana.....Terrific cover. Also "Sinatra Souvenir" on Fontana. 2 Greats from Great Britain.

    When I was young the old Sinatra Collectors always said: "Kid: you've only heard Sinatra on LP. You never heard the real thing. You never heard him on 78".
     
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  20. paulmock

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    Luckily Ron, we DID hear the real thing...Mr. S "Live and in person" many times!
     
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  21. Great Music Lover

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    Finding a decent copy of the Box within Europe seems quite difficult - no problem if living in USA but for Europe, often faced with high shipping costs from USA. Is there another option for Europe bearing in mind that all of the recordings are probably in Public Domain here.
     
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  22. jtsjc1

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    Hopefully in the new year Chuck Granata will give us a surprise about the "Complete Columbia Master Takes 1943-1952" he's working on.
     
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  23. Tribute

    Tribute Forum Resident

    you should hear some of the vinyl 78s
     
  24. Great Music Lover

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    Well that’s hopeful news. But if that does not happen, and the Blue Box is not a possibility, what other options are there to get these recordings without having to buy 101 different discs etc IYKWIM. There seem to be lots of "Best of Columbia Years" or "Columbia Essentials". Just want it as simple as possible.
     
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  25. Tribute

    Tribute Forum Resident

    In the vinyl days there were collectors LP editions of rare 78s issued on labels with total pressings of 99 copies, which was allowed in many countries without violating copyright. But only 99 copies were allowed. They were fun to collect, and the only other source was a 78.
     

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