Sinatra on Columbia (Official/Authorized Releases)*

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by ShockControl, Dec 11, 2011.

  1. MMM

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    No changes for the most part that I'm aware of, Rob. The discs content should match the '93 set, except for replacement of any songs represented there by alternate takes. The packaging will change to mini-LP type sleeves.
     
  2. ehtoo

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    I'm the opposite. I like the Columbia and Capitol years over Reprise. What you need to hear is not the pleasant voice or nice arrangements, rather Sinatra's phrasing. He sang like no other and it was all laid down during the Columbia years.
     
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  3. colormesinatra

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    Ok, Thanks Martin!
     
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  4. ShockControl

    ShockControl Bon Vivant and Raconteur! Thread Starter

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    Thanks. I get that, but it's not compelling enough to keep me coming back. Not knocking the earlier period, but for me, he's just not Frank until Capitol.

    That said, I do very much like his Columbia (secular) Christmas tracks, and play them every holiday season.
     
  5. Richard--W

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    This is exciting news. I will definitely buy the upgraded 12-cd set because, because, because the Columbia recordings are not something I can live without. After more than twenty years perhaps the time has come to remaster all the tracks anew. But I will settle for what I can get. I would hope that instead of picking the most interesting tracks from the 1947-49 sessions that, sooner rather than eventually, Columbia will simply release the sessions in their entirety complete with inbetween studio ambiance and chatter including the slates.
     
  6. colormesinatra

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    Yesterday I Listened to the CD that Granata and Deutsch put together of Frank's Columbia Christmas music from 1994.

    What a terrific compilation and damn good sound too!

    After listening to that music straight from the CD, I may have to re-listen to the BBB again because I usually listen to Frank's Columbia material from my iPod. Something obviously happens to the music (and all music) once it is put onto a computer and then loaded onto an iPod.
     
  7. Bob F

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    Then you'll be blown away by the 2004 reissue (with the gold frame on the cover) and/or last year's new Columbia/Legacy CD, The Classic Christmas Album.

    See this thread: —> Frank Sinatra - The Classic Christmas Album (New Legacy Compilation)
     
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  8. Tribute

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    Are there any other reissues of previous Columbia CDs that feature new improved sound? It is easy to lose track of the market if you think you have all the published recordings. I appreciate that tip on the Christmas CD and picked it up. This stuff does make me wish SONY would invest in a remaster of the complete Columbia recordings. Such a shame that it may never happen.
     
  9. Bob F

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    None that come to my mind.
     
  10. Tribute

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    I bet there were some big arguments in the SONY meeting rooms about whether to remaster the complete Sinatra catalog for his 100th. There was probably someone with a law degree and an MBA who thought he knew everything and over ruled those in favor of a remaster
     
  11. paulmock

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    All about the $$$$$$ my friend. All about the $$$$.....
     
  12. Tribute

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    We see a great number of remastered large collections issued by artists that have much smaller commercial appeal than Sinatra, regardless of the time period. It is a wrong-headed sense of money
     
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  13. Bob F

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  14. Kkfan

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  15. frankfan1

    frankfan1 Some days I feel like Balok

    I wish the album would, too!
     
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  16. Kkfan

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    What could have happened to that thread?

    Does this mean he has influence over the powers-that-be on this forum?
     
  17. frankfan1

    frankfan1 Some days I feel like Balok

    Has there been any word on how well the Voice on Air box has sold?
     
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  18. colormesinatra

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    Im curious too and now it makes sense that this was the only set that was released for the Centennial. Ive been theorizing and I think FSE did this because a set that consisted on more popular material like the Capitol and Reprise material...it would easily overshadow AVOA.

    FSE needed the sales of this set to be as strong as possible in order for Sony to even consider more releases. The business is always changing.

    My two cents

    -Rob
     
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  19. Price.pittsburgh

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    What I like most about the Columbia years is the versions of the many love songs he rerecorded with Capitol.
    Although I tend to lean towards the Capitol versions due to his more mature vocals and better arrangements, I love the simple approach with Columbia.
     
  20. Bob F

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    I notice that the (first) photo in the quoted post has gone missing. Here is an updated image link:

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  21. Kkfan

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    Wow!
    Always wondered, but never knew! Thanks for the heads-up on that. :)
     
  22. Tribute

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    It always surprised me that, when Columbia issued this 8 song album on a single 10 inch LP, they used the worst quality generic design possible (no photo at all, and a paper sleeve). They should have used the 78RPM album cover as they did for others. It would have made it a classic 33RPM album cover. After all it was the first "popular" (i.e. non-classical) long-playing record issued by Columbia, the company that introduced the LP.
     
  23. Bob F

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    The oft-quoted statement about it being the FIRST pop LP is a bit misleading: Yes, it had the LOWEST catalog number, but it was one of a whole group of "first" records issued simultaneously—all with the same generic (non-photo) paper sleeve design:

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    See also: —> Columbia 10" Album Discography, Part 1 (CL 6001 to CL 6099) 1948-1950
     
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  24. Tribute

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    It must have been some fun back in the very first days of 10 inch LPs, when Decca went crazy and issued a huge number of Bing Crosby 10 inch LPs in a short period (mostly reissues of previous 78 albums). Collectors must have been going to the bank to get enough cash. (No credit cards!) They were expensive relative to so many other things. And then most buyers went and played them with worn out oversized 78 styluses and severely damaged the microgrooves. So, most 10 inch LPs look great, but suffer groove damage.

    The cover for one of Franks last 10 inch LPs (Get Happy) was controversial. Some love it, some hate it. But a pristine copy of the cover does look great
     
  25. Bob F

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    None are needledrops from 78s.
     
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