Slaughter A Few Sacred Audiophile Cows

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by Shak Cohen, Sep 29, 2014.

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  1. Diamond Dog

    Diamond Dog Cautionary Example

    To me, that's the stereotype. The better the gear I've been able to move to, the more I enjoy the music. I'm enjoying a borrowed Sphinx preamp as I type this and I cannot believe how much better it sounds in my system than what I thought was already a pretty damned good preamp. So whattaya do ? Actually, I'm thinking that even this might not be the bucket-list preamp for me. Why do it? Because it enhances the enjoyment of the music for me. I just listened to a SHM-CD of Bowie's Diamond Dogs ( hard to believe, I know...:faint: ) which is an album I am extremely familiar with and I was stunned at how much more I was hearing - it was a huge treat. So I don't necessarily subscribe to the idea of the gearhead who doesn't enjoy the music as much as the gear although those people definitely exist. I know a few myself. But I ain't one of 'em. And I own a few more than five CD's...:D

    D.D.
     
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  2. Diamond Dog

    Diamond Dog Cautionary Example

    Killing a cow doesn't make you a carnivore.... It makes you a cow-killer. There's a difference. :uhhuh:

    D.D.
     
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  3. dnuggett

    dnuggett Forum Resident

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    Rocks on your speakers somehow improve the sound!
     
  4. Shak Cohen

    Shak Cohen Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I'm not on these forums to ridicule anybody. Most of the time I am found to be posting about my favorite bands, masterings, etc. and passing on my experiences about stuff I've tried, so perhaps that they can be of use to someone.
    I happen to really like 1970s/early '80s hi-fi both stylistically and sonically and am really thrilled to be able to acquire it so cheaply. It satisfies me, and I can relax with it. I worked in a hi-fi store in the 90s, and saw how much you could spend, and bought quite a lot of gear then too, but what I have now is clearly more direct, earthy, musical...because of this I have begun to question the validity of spending thousands when several hundred gave me pretty much what I wanted, and didn't make itchy for an upgrade every 2-3 months..
     
  5. motorcitydave

    motorcitydave Enlightened Rogue In Memoriam

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    Especially on the 1210M5G where the cabling is high quality OFC, and the arm is better damped.


    :edthumbs:
     
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  6. Diamond Dog

    Diamond Dog Cautionary Example

    It sounds as though you've found a good place for yourself in terms of your system. The problem with discussions like this is when people start thinking that their good place is the best place for everyone. That's when things start going sideways into the weeds.

    D.D.
     
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  7. csgreene

    csgreene Forum Resident

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    $40,000 cables
     
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  8. Bolero

    Bolero Senior Member

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    Shak I am genuinely curious about what turntable/cartridge you have?

    thx
     
  9. user33977

    user33977 Banned

    Using “audiophile” playback software on Apple Macintosh computers because plain iTunes just sounds dreadful.
     
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  10. Bolero

    Bolero Senior Member

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    well it took them a couple years to even fix the gapless playback issue ;)

    try listening to an album like "Dark Side of the Moon" with a gap between every track...damn right I used something else!!
     
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  11. user33977

    user33977 Banned

    I don’t see how this should be related to the allegedly inferior playback quality of iTunes compared to the various “audiophile” alternative software, however: Assumed the orginial audio CD actually is a gapless one, of course music playback in iTunes will be gapless too — as it always was from day one. Please see the article Gapless Playback in iTunes 11 from the iLounge website for more details.
     
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  12. Shak Cohen

    Shak Cohen Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Akai AP-307, switchable between Direct Drive and Quartz Lock Direct Drive. I have the following cartridges mounted on separate headshells: AT11 (with ATS10 [spherical, 2.5g], ATS11E [Elliptical, 2g], ATS12s [Shibata, 1.75g] stylii), AT95e, AT92ECD, AT13eA [Nude Elliptical, 1g].

    If I can't get the sound I want from a record from mounting one of the above, I declare it to be a dud! It seldom happens though.

    I also have a Dual CS-505-3 with an Ortofon OM10 (had an OM30 stylus for it, which was great, but sold it).

    Until recently I had a CS-503-1, which has a quartz controlled motor. Had an OM5e on that. In the past decade I've had Dual CS-5000 and Linn Axis also.
     
  13. Shak Cohen

    Shak Cohen Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Ridiculously high sampling rates such as 24/192 and 32/384(!).
    Redbook CD, SACD and 24/44.1 should be considered sensible limits.
     
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  14. Shak Cohen

    Shak Cohen Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    All I wanted was a clean mat to replace the old one, which FWIW more appropriate. Instead I got something that robbed the sound of it's 'completeness' and brought issues to the fore that the old mat did so well to hide. A good example of an audiophile accessory wrecking a perfectly good set-up. Of course you never realise it at the time, you just go along and get another product to improve/fix the problem that has been created for you!
     
  15. Shak Cohen

    Shak Cohen Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    You can get a good amount of vintage gear from eBay etc. for $500. A lot of these components were expensive in their day - a solid state amp retailing for $500 in the 1970s, that would be about $3000 today in inflationary terms. To be able to get this stuff so cheap is a scream. It's also perfect for me as I like the '55-'75 era in music primarily.
     
  16. EdogawaRampo

    EdogawaRampo Senior Member

    Cold pressed virgin olive oil if you ask me.
     
  17. TarnishedEars

    TarnishedEars Forum Resident

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    Why stop there? Who needs fidelity better than 8-track tapes or 56k MP3s? And buying anything fancier than a $100 York all-in-one stereo purchased at a drug-store is clearly a total waste of money.
     
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  18. Shak Cohen

    Shak Cohen Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    What are you hearing at these hugely inflated sampling rates that say, redbook is not giving you? Mp3 is only a fraction of CDs 1411kbps and sounds like it to me. 8-track I never considered to be worthy.
     
  19. Ortofun

    Ortofun Well-Known Member

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    *Reads thread*

    *Bangs head on desk*
     
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  20. Ash76

    Ash76 Wait actually yeah no

    Must be a pain when synching with The Wizard Of Oz
     
  21. Robin L

    Robin L Musical Omnivore

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    Coconut oil, organic and fair trade. Hard finding virgins these days. Best sauteed in in a six-nines copper frypan, preferably silver-clad.
     
  22. ElizabethH

    ElizabethH Forum Resident

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    What happen to my cow?
    She was grazing right over THERE.. next to the stereo... (a really nice expensive stereo mind you) and now she has vanished. Blood EVERYWHERE.. The kids are screaming, The cops just showed up and are calling in the FBI and mumbling something about a terrorist attack...
     
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  23. norman_frappe

    norman_frappe Forum Resident


    To be perfectly honest, yes, I am pretty amazed by what some people fret and obsess about. But this is by no means contained to audiophiles. And quite frankly I don't care what others spend money on. Doesn't hurt me.
     
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  24. chervokas

    chervokas Senior Member

    Oy vay... here's a couple commonly trotted out pearls of wisdom that should be put to bed:

    that measurements are meaningless and don't tell you anything;

    that any one variable in a design makes it always better than another design (such as that tubes are always better than solid state, or that vinyl is alway better that digital, or that MC cartridges and always better than MM cartridges, that discrete transistors are always better than op amps, direct drive vs belt drive, etc);

    oh yeah, and that inexpensive Japanese DD turntables of the 70s and 80s represent the state of the art record players that deliver everything vinyl has to offer and can't be bested by other tables and designs.
     
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  25. Robin L

    Robin L Musical Omnivore

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    I just want to point out that I've been 99.99%* vegetarian since 2002 and that I can't stand the sight of blood.

    *thought the deep-fried chicken finger I ate in May this year was a deep fried mozzarella stick, decided not to spit it out.
     
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