Some of the DOORS 45 mixes are so superior to the LP mixes! I wanna know why!

The Doors were able to be a 'singles' band when needed and when they were trying to create a hit, but I think they were primarily an 'album' band.
I imagine the singles that flopped didn't have much involvement with the band. I imagine those decisions were more Elektra's.

 

Guesstimation:

It's said producer Paul A. Rothschild, took 130 takes to complete the song/single. Guessing the fact that the gun shot is different on the single than it is on the ablum; proves he couldn't leave it alone.

Both the 'live' & promo vids w/article:
May 4, 1968: The Doors Release "The Unknown Soldier" - The Doors Examiner, Redux

 

Probably, yeah.
I was very young (4) when the song was a hit. I don't recall "Touch Me" being played much after it was a hit. When I rediscovered them just around the "American Prayer" album release, I didn't know they said "stronger than dirt" until it was pointed out to me!

 

They're not rewriting history, dude! The 45 version doesn't have "stronger than dirt" in the mix. And, the 45 was released 7 months before The Soft Parade. Research

Oh, Ajax is still on the shelves, too. So, people born after that commercial still know what Ajax is.

 

I think this was even more true in the 1980s where many 12" 45s blow away the LP tracks eg Prince, The Smiths. I assume this happened for the same reason that 45 rpm picture sleeves were often more colorful and striking than the LP covers - handled at lower levels of the company by young talent with less oversight?

But I completely agree with our Host's complaints. As I said in another thread I think pop rock LP mixes are generally quite poor.

 

This upcoming Doors singles box set.


Does anyone know if this is all analogue? Ie., no digital steps?
it says mastered from the analogue tapes, but this is all too often marketing ********. Yes, DIGITALLY mastered from the original analogue tapes and pressed DIGITAL files to vinyl.

 

Marketing Bull*h*it...

 

If this set is all analogue and the original single mixes, like Steve Hoffman is talking about, I'm in for a set.
Digital, forget it. I'll go get it on HD Tracks when it comes up. Like the Ray Charles box set....

 

Enquiring minds wanna know ?

 

Well, the set is up on HD Tracks, at 192/24 resolution.
My guess - assumption - is that the singles box set is 192/24 files pressed to vinyl.
Which means a purchase from HD Tracks.
Anyone have any information pointing to an analogue job on the box set???...............

Despite the line: "Mastered from the original analog single masters".....

 

Yes after hearing Touch Me I agree with what you're saying, that orchestra is pushed back too far & those drums are in your face too much. Just my opinion too of course!

 

The examples posted sound much better than the familiar LP versions.
IMHO

 

I was old enough to have heard the stronger than dirt commercial many times. Regardless, if Touch Me was played to its end, I always capped it with, "TEQUILA!"

Ajax didn't register.

 

Sweet! I didn't know this existed. "Touch me" is my kind of mix.

 

James, can't answer your specific question, I just know that the CDs and especially the quad blu-ray were the most enjoyable music I've heard in 2017. That package was $18 on amazon, just the cds about $15, and the 45s are $150. There is a Doors the Singles thread that is up to 50 pages now that would probably provide a lot of specifics for you, but I'd recommend taking a chance on it. Plus the host of the forum is giving it some pretty high praise

 

Even more impressive.

 

Oops, I must have misunderstood your opening 3 posts. I took them as you were complementing the new Doors Singles versions of Touch Me, etc. My apologies.

 

Those four flop singles included "You Make Me Real" / "Roadhouse Blues", and "Wishful Sinful"; very cool records. I also like the other two.

These were the four Doors singles released following the notorious "Miami incident", with promoters and some radio stations banning the group, although all four A-sides received limited airplay on AM radio.

 

I'm pretty sure all of the examples you've given were released months before the album. Funny, a lot of the changed made on the 40th anniversary mixes reflected the original single mixes, the extra vocals in Roadhouse Blues, the horns being panned down on Touch Me, they're all there. Maybe Paul Rothchild was trying to make the Doors sound more "Pop-Friendly" as many accused them of being.

 

Before I go onto HD Tracks and pull the trigger on the 192/24 hi res files, can someone confirm to me that the mixes are all the right mixes, the same as the CD box?
It's 60$ so rather different than just 12 bucks from Amazon.

 

What's the 45rpm singles box like, same mixes as the 2 CD?