There's different sizes offered if you click on the link. BTW, you shouldn't need to unplug anything to make your system work. All the HDMI cables need to properly handshake with each other, even those that don't seem to be in use. If it's not a bad cable, it could be something is having processing problems. You don't explain in detail what the problem is but here's a tip. Switch the color space output on your X800 to 4:2:2. Many 4K TV's won't work properly if you don't force the player to output this setting.
So I was home sick from Thursday thru Sunday with strep throat (aren't I too old for this isht, universe?), and did something I haven't done in ages - sat around in bed watching television. Well, watching television and sleeping to television. And because broadcast is a swamp full of infomercial garbage, I was mostly using Netflix and YouTube. And my now-ancient Samsung smart TV (circa 2013 if memory serves) is SO BLEEDING SLOW I thought I was gonna go out of my mind waiting for it to boot up / start apps / switch programs. Well, go out of my mind or doze off. Today I was sweeping thru Target after work looking for orange juice and snacks when I ran across the UBP-X800 selling for $149 and decided what the heck, buy it. I'd read somewhere (here?) that its smart TV features were some of the fastest yet tested, and after my tedious experience the previous four days I figured I'd give it a try. I spend a fortune every month on Netflix / Hulu / Amazon Prime and never use the video, mostly because it's such a chore booting the old Samsung up (it literally takes about 5 minutes from turn on to streaming, by which point I'm so annoyed that nine times out of ten I've already just flicked the thing off). Setup was a snap and I had it streaming from Netflix in about 20 minutes, most of that time spent waiting around for a software update to complete. As far as I can tell there's no lag - by the time the TV screen has come on (maybe 10 seconds) the player is ready to stream from whatever, and apps like YouTube fire up in maybe 5 seconds or less. Picture quality seems better too than it was using the Samsung's native smart TV functions, at least on Netflix, YouTube and Amazon. I have no idea when I'll get around to snagging a 4K set - my place is tiny and the spot under the window where the TV lives can only hold about a 43" screen, max - but I seem to have the player to use it with when it finally arrives. I really want a new OLED set, but it seems like most of those are only available in sizes bigger than 43", which I find odd since I'd assume it would be much easier to make smaller OLED panels. It's funny, because while 4K isn't of much use on screens this small, OLED's superior black levels and brightness would be hugely advantageous on screens of all sizes. At some point I'll actually need to test out the actual drive mechanism of this gadget, spinning some DVD-Audio discs, SACD's, DVD's and oh yeah my Blu-rays. But for now for $150 I'd say this is a solid piece of kit - metal and it weighs a ton. The remote is teeny and doesn't feel terribly expensive - I'm not loving the button layout - but it looks very much like classic Sony design of the '80s, all clean minimal lines, and not like the junky overdesigned remote that came with my older Sony Blu-ray from 5 years or so ago. It's nice to see them apparently returning to their old winning ways after a couple of decades wandering in the wilderness. Just hope it's not too late.
Man this thing is really sweet I picked one up during this sale too. It is a great transport. I did have to put mine on top of a wood cutting board to stop it from making a loud drive noise with one DVD I tried, but i can't blame the player it was on glass shelf. I just put a wyred4sound remedy reclocker between the x800 and my DAC and now its an amazing.
You aren't going to get a top shelf D/A converter at this price, so I could care less about the lack of analog audio outputs. Anyhow, I'd want 5.1 analog outputs, and those are increasingly rare on disc players. It would be nice to have some display. But again, for this price it's not a dealbreaker.
You get what you pay for, as they say. This is currently on sale at Amazon for under $150, which is slightly more than LG's current value oriented 4k player which also includes Dolby Vision.
Not having a display doesn't bug me (technically mine has 48inch display) I always turn the display off my other "CD players "anyway. You can put a CD in and press play and it will play once it loads (quite quickly)
It is really fast. I was fiddling with it again this morning. Very impressed. Need to see how it handles things like multichannel FLAC files.
Not sure this has been mentioned, but I think audio needs to be set to auto and not PCM or it will re-sample your CD's to 48, 96, or 192khz. I could be wrong... I do not like the up-sampling feature, it just seemed brighter to me when switched on.
That indicates there might be an issue with your D/A converter. It should sound pretty much the same, but not every D/A converter sounds the same at 48 or 96 or 192kHz as it does at 44.1.
I just want to echo the sentiments of others here. For the price of $150 its the deal of the century for people with AVRs that can handle the digital to analog conversion there.
I received mine from Amazon last week. I neglected to post my initial impressions. Here's a copy from AVS Forum, w/ some updates: 1) Wi-fi connection is fine, but I couldn't update the firmware via wi-fi, so I did it successfully via USB stick. 2) Tried almost all discs types with no issue: BD, 3D BD, DVD-Audio (had to switch the setting from DVD-Audio to DVD-Video to get the menu and 5.1), SA-CD, Netflix, and Hulu. I haven't yet tried CD or DVD. 3) I'm slightly disappointed at the dearth of apps. I can watch CBS All Access on the PS4 - why doesn't this player have it? 4) There's absolutely no display on the front of the unit? I don't think I'll miss it much, but it is occasionally convenient. 5) I prefer the layout of the 790 remote buttons, but I'll get used to the x800 remote. I do miss the 10-second reverse button. That came in handy if I missed some dialogue. (Update: I realized I can use the 790 remote w/ this unit, which I'm doing) 6) This machine does seem a little faster at loading BD discs and apps than the 790. I don't use quick-start on either machine. They seem fast enough without it. Many people on that forum have issues w/ freezing discs and audio/video dropouts. I have experienced audio dropouts: For the first few days, I had no audio issues w/ Netflix nor any other source. Last night, after watching a couple of titles on Netflix, I started a Stranger Things episode, and there was no audio. Switching immediately to a BD disc, audio was fine. Tonight, I fired up Netflix again. The default promos had audio, but when I tried Stranger Things again, no audio. I switched from 5.1 to 2.0 in the Netflix audio options, and audio was fine. I switched back to 5.1, and still no audio. I exited the Netflix app, then restarted, and now the audio is fine.
You can get a converter to take hdmi to rca. Mine plays just fine through my Mac, using hdmi 2 output.
Yes, that is one shortcoming. There's a surprising dearth of apps. Maybe this player is based on a brand new CPU/OS architecture for Sony and they just haven't written (or ported) many of the apps available for the other units yet? My hope is that it's the first of a new generation, so a whole bunch of apps will be forthcoming and it'll be supported for many years... Otherwise, this kinda sucks, although it still works far better (for Netflix, anyhow) than my old Sony Blu-ray did, or my older Samsung smart TV. Hulu was really glitchy tonight - I gave up after awhile - but I often have glitches with Hulu on my PC and on my smart TV, so I'm not willing to blame the player for that. So much stuff I liked on Hulu has been removed, I'm strongly considering pulling the plug, anyhow.
Perhaps you are right that they will sound the same. But, I was just saying no need to resample a CD to 48 or 96 192, etc if its only 44.1 to begin with. I want it to be just pass the digital signal as is, which I think auto will do. I was talking about the HSEE setting that seems to make my CDs seem brighter. It’s supposed to be audible that setting
With the addition of DVD-Audio capability (from Sony!) and other features this player really is at the top of the heap when it comes to playback capabilities and features. However, like previous Sony's (and a lot of other brands) there are still some limitations - especially when it comes to streaming. In some cases it will not stream a file properly - necessitating loading the files onto a stick. But kudos to Sony: unlike with my older Sony players, this one's owner's manual goes to great lengths to list all of what it can, and cannot do. I took the time to download and read it from cover-to-cover and concluded that I'd give it a pass - even at $150. It does not overcome the most-frustrating limitations of my current players when it comes to streaming. Three examples of streaming limitations, taken from the Sony manual: - The player may not play this [.mkv] file format on a Home Network server. - The player can only play standard definition video on a Home Network server. - The player does not play DTS format files on a Home Network server. Regardless, it really is the most feature-laden player for playback capabilities that I've seen (assuming you pass everything via HDMI - and why wouldn't you?) and as others have said, at $150 it is an incredible deal. Jeff
I’m very impressed with this player. Listening to a red book cd of The Cinematic Orchestra through an older Rotel pre/pro via the coax digital out, I find it very musical. I have been looking at the Essence Evolve to be able to use the HDMI for hi rez audio but haven’t found much info on the DACs being used.
It would be interesting if someone could check if Dsd over Pcm (DoP) is supported, but you need a capable dac for that and a streamer like jRiver. The HSEE when used, upsample even some dts streams, so it ruins bitstream signal.. I have the UHP1, believe me, the analog out is useless..
HDMI only. Like other enhancers, HSEE is too bright/sharp for me. [DSD Output Mode] [Auto]: Outputs DSD signal from HDMI OUT jack when playing Super Audio CD & DSD format file (if the connected device also supports DSD). Outputs LPCM signal from HDMI OUT jack when playing Super Audio CD & DSD format file (if the connected device does not support DSD). [Off]: Outputs PCM signals from HDMI OUT jack when playing Super Audio CD and DSD format file.https://docs.sony.com/release//Manual_4687309111.pdf
That doesn't mean it can't support DoP, basically it's just a pcm stream over spidf, it should output it untouched.. What is DoP (DSD over PCM)? | dCS
Summary of my experience using the X800 for a month compared to my previous S790 (both feeding a Panasonic plasma, so no 4K): Pros: Faster loading of discs and apps Cons: S790 remote is much better Main menu of the Netflix app on the X800 causes my AVR to go silent when I switch to playing a title (solution is to change the AVR to another input, then back to the X800 input) No front panel display on the X800 Turning on/off subtitles on the new Netflix app requires more steps than the old app Wash: Old Netflix app frequently loses My List, but so does the new app So, I decided to move the S790 back into the rig, and put the X800 in a spare bedroom.
??? Subtitles take 3 clicks (audio-up arrow-return) from the standard remote...hardly a con. I have no problems on Netflix or Amazon, nor have any 4K videos hung up. It's a great player.