Speakers for 11 watts Tube Amp

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by allied333, Mar 13, 2018.

  1. allied333

    allied333 Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Location:
    waterford, mi
    I want bookshelf speakers for a 11 watt per channel tube amp. I been using 86dB sensitive Pioneer SP-BS 22s and it is loud enough. But perhaps some extra reserve would be good. I was thinking Wharfedale 225s at 88dB efficient. I have about a $750 budget. The Pioneers are not exactly lower end audiophile quality.
     
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  2. 62caddy

    62caddy Forum Resident

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    2 dB increased sensitivity isn't significant enough to justify the change if extra headroom is the reason for doing so.
     
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  3. G B Kuipers

    G B Kuipers Forum Resident

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    With 11 W, I would definitely look at 93db and up. However effeciency and power rating figures don't tell you everything. So... Try before you buy.
     
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  4. inperson

    inperson Forum Resident

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    I use 6 watts (single ended EL84 amp) with my Usher 520s speakers and I think it sounds fine at regular listening volumes. Not blasting but not quiet either and the bass is very nice..
     
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  5. Dennis0675

    Dennis0675 Burnout from the smoke pit

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    Paradigm studio 40’s are 93db sensitive but are on the larger side for bookshelf speakers.

    This is a question I’ve looked into a few times. I’ve settled on Rogers ls3/5as but their not all that sensitive and you do need to sit fairly close to them.

    At the end of the day Klipsch is the way to go if you want to fill a room with sound using a low powered amp.
     
  6. theron d

    theron d Forum Resident

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    I think Omega bookshelves may work (high efficiency) but cannot vouche for how they sound.

    Monitor Speakers
     
  7. No Static

    No Static Gain Rider

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    How big is your room? That's important when talking dynamics (extra reserve).
     
  8. stereoguy

    stereoguy The King Of Stereo Mixing

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    get some vintage 1960 speakers!
     
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  9. Dennis0675

    Dennis0675 Burnout from the smoke pit

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    Some jbl’s or altec’s would be ideal but not fit for a bookshelf.
     
  10. stereoguy

    stereoguy The King Of Stereo Mixing

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    Correct, but there were bookshelf speakers in 1960 too........those would fit the bill perfectly.
     
  11. Dennis0675

    Dennis0675 Burnout from the smoke pit

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    What are you thinking? I’ve not heard many vintage speakers that I would prefer over new.
     
  12. stereoguy

    stereoguy The King Of Stereo Mixing

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    Well, Denny, I'd say this: I think vintage 2 ways would STILL sound better than 2018 full range drivers. I ran FRD with 14 watts for a couple of years, I never will again.
     
  13. H8SLKC

    H8SLKC Forum Resident

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    I've been thinking of getting something like a Tube Cube 7 for a desktop near field listening environment, so this thread is very helpful. Other threads I've reviewed arrive at Klipsch over and over again, which is a shame because I'm not a huge fan of Klipsch. I may try the Tube Cube with a "normal" bookshelf model with 5-6" woofer and see what happens. Good luck in your search and I'll keep on watching this thread to see what other advice you get.
     
  14. Dennis0675

    Dennis0675 Burnout from the smoke pit

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    I was asking about specific speakers. I’ve found that Fishers sound very rough and the warfdales I’ve heard not much better. Condition can certainly be an issue but those old speakers can sound like an AM radio.
     
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  15. Dennis0675

    Dennis0675 Burnout from the smoke pit

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    I wasn’t a Klipsch fan until I got a tube amp. And when I connect the ones I have with various SS amps, they sound pretty ugly.

    At the end of the day I feel confident saying that it takes a big speaker to make a big sound with a small amp. I would love to be wrong but I just dont think you can get an 11wpc amp up to 90db clean with any bookshelf speaker if your listening from more than two feet away.
     
  16. allied333

    allied333 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Only Klipsch I owned that did not have tweeter bite & a little honk was Cornwall- good sound, but huge. I did not like Forte with expensive titanium tweeter & upgraded crossover. Other I owned I did not like was a bookshelf model. I cannot remember the model number. All Klipsch were powered with tube amps.
     
  17. allied333

    allied333 Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Location:
    waterford, mi
    15 x 20 x 10 foot cathedral ceiling.
     
  18. action pact

    action pact ^^ Sandy Warner, "The Exotica Girl"

    I'm using Wharfedale Dentons with my Fisher X-100 in my 8 x 11 room. It's a great pairing.
    [​IMG]
     
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  19. allied333

    allied333 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Yes, Super 7 looks good, $1K though.
     
  20. allied333

    allied333 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I was thinking about the Dentons, but at 6 ohms & I think 86dB. The brighter 225s would be better for my old ears. I can go with 225s, but 92dB+ sensitivity would be better.
     
  21. 62caddy

    62caddy Forum Resident

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    That's almost exactly the same sized room and ceilings of the space my vintage system occupies - mainly used with 90 dB speakers and ~ 50 wpc of amplifier power. I mostly listen at low to moderate levels for which I find the system adequate but I'm pretty certain 86 dB speakers with 11 wpc would impose some serious limitations on my listening enjoyment.

    In any case, you're really going need significantly increased sensitivity of the speakers to obtain an appreciable improvement in dynamic range with the present amplifier.
     
  22. No Static

    No Static Gain Rider

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    OK, that's a good size room. Think you're on the right track with the 90dB plus sensitivity idea, especially if you like a little volume. If you like things a little quieter your options widen.

    I have a pair of Silverline Preludes (narrow towers...87dB I believe) powered with an 8-watt tube amp and it sounds good and dynamic in a 20 by 20 room at my office. But they're never playing very loud.

    The fun is in the hunt. Good luck!
     
  23. McLover

    McLover Forum Resident

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    Reality is more like 94 db sensitive and up which puts you in Klipsch and Coral territory for something viable. Especially in anything but an office sized small room. Klipsch KG 4 would be a good candidate or something similar in the newer line.
     
  24. Bob_in_OKC

    Bob_in_OKC Frequent Visitor

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  25. allied333

    allied333 Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Location:
    waterford, mi
    Interesting, but 55hz bass response. The Monitor Super 7 is 45hz bass response. I cannot run my subwoofer on my tube amp. For some reason it sounds terribly flabby, but the regular speakers sounds much better with the bass just no extending as low- go figure! Sub is great on my HT system.
     

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