I told you that I watched the scene a bunch of times. Look closely at his hands, they go to his CHEST not his neck. Also there is no sound of choking like the rest of the movie. I am not doubting that something COULD have happened, but it is not definite to my eyes. The Youtube clip is hard to see. Break out the bluray and use high def sound. Watch it several times and look close. No neck is touched at all. The marvel comic is separate from the movie, just as novels, scripts...screenplays...whatever. I covered this. We can agree to disagree, no harm or foul, just know I understood about 5 posts back.