Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by mcow1, Jun 28, 2005.
I don't think I've seen this here before.
We actually had a thread about it a few months back, but it was still unconfirmed. Now that it's "official" it's disappointing that it's only 10 songs instead of all 17 from the second and third Gaslight show.
Is there a track listing yet for the soundtrack to Scorsese's movie?
From today's NY Times:
June 28, 2005
New to the Starbucks Menu: Exclusive Dylan
By ROBERT LEVINE
Starbucks plans to announce today that it will exclusively sell "Bob Dylan: Live at the Gaslight 1962," further encroaching on the turf of traditional music retailers by offering a recording that has been prized by fans as a bootleg for decades.
Over the last year, the chain has become a force in the music business with the success of the Grammy-winning album of Ray Charles duets, "Genius Loves Company." Starbucks sold more than 750,000 copies of the album.
Like an acoustic version of the Alanis Morissette album "Jagged Little Pill," which Starbucks began selling several weeks ago, the Dylan release will not initially be available anywhere else, in this case for 18 months.
"We're focused on providing our customers unique opportunities," said Ken Lombard, president of Starbucks Entertainment, referring to albums that were unavailable elsewhere. "We want the music customer to think of Starbucks as a destination."
Although it is not uncommon for labels to make a release available exclusively to a single retailer, such deals risk alienating other stores; a few of them stopped selling other albums by Ms. Morissette for several weeks to make their point.
Traditional music retailers may be somewhat calmed because they will be getting a new Dylan release as well. Sony BMG Music Entertainment, which struck the deal with Starbucks, also plans to release "The Bootleg Series Volume 7: No Direction Home" on Columbia/Legacy Recordings. The album, a collection mostly consisting of unreleased early 60's material from Mr. Dylan's archives, will be available to all retailers on Aug. 30, the day the "Gaslight" album hits shelves at Starbucks.
Sales of both releases could be helped by the late September PBS broadcast of "No Direction Home: Bob Dylan," a documentary by Martin Scorsese.
"That's somewhat of a salve for the burn," said Mike Dreese, chief executive of Newbury Comics, a chain of New England music stores that has withdrawn several of Ms. Morissette's albums from shelves. "It sounds obnoxious, but not completely obnoxious."
Sony BMG Music Entertainment is taking other steps as well to make traditional retailers feel as though they are not missing out. The company is planning a promotion that will include special racks that hold the album "No Direction Home" as well as a DVD of the documentary and the paperback of Mr. Dylan's recent autobiography.
In addition, according to Jeff Jones, executive vice president of Legacy Recordings, the company is planning to make a bonus CD of several songs from another Dylan concert available to retailers as a promotional item.
"They could use that in their campaigns as well," Mr. Jones said, although the details have not yet been totally worked out. "The focus is in trying to be proactive with our retail partners."
Mr. Dreese said he was not sure whether he would change the way Newbury Comics shelves other Dylan albums, several of which are consistent sellers. He did indicate, however, that he was concerned about what the exclusive Starbucks releases might mean as a trend.
Business people will tell you this trend is 'corporate synergy.'
Music fans can consider it 'screwing the pooch.'
I already have this boot, don't know if I'll shell out for a legit copy or not.
I still havent bought "1964" because I was hoping for an SACD, as was originally promised. I'll probably get these, but I am wondering if the version that will come out in 18 months will be longer.
Have any Forum members ever purchased a CD at Starbucks? Can you only buy the CD or do you also have to buy something else? I'm not a coffee drinker and have never been in a Starbucks.
You can buy just the CD.
You're the one.
I find it somewhat odd that Sony/Columbia has chosen to release this material through Starbucks rather than the Bootleg Series, but what do I know? I wonder if the stereotypical Starbucks/Norah Jones fan customer base will enjoy a CD of mono live recordings from 1962?
I've been told several times that I'm unique!
Starbucks sold 750,000 copies of Ray Charles' 'Genius Loves Company' (athough that was sold in retail and other outlets as well). I don't think that the
will even notice that it is mono.
Many of the CDs sold in Starbucks are either $12.99 or $14.99 (US). At that price they may satisfy the impulse buy at the counter urge. Some consumers may rationalize the price as being cheaper than the $18.99 or $19..9 fare at the mall CD shops.
Not quite. I've never had so much as a sip of coffee, and the closest I've been to a Starbucks is waiting in the car outside for my wife to get a cup of something.
Welcome to the non-coffee club! (LOL)
I don't believe Sony/Columbia owns the rights to the Gaslight tapes, weren't they recorded before Dylan signed with them
The press release quoted above states that Sony/Columbia "struck the deal" with Starbucks. Dylan's first Columbia album was released in 1961, so the 1962 Gaslight recordings fall within Dylan's tenure as a Columbia artist.
Dylan was under contract with Columbia as of 10-26-61, so as John said, presumably those tapes (made a year or so later) belong to Sony.
That reminds me... I've asked this question a couple different times on various forums and no one seems to know: Was the import version of this title released as an SACD hybrid? Towerrecords.com lists it here as a hybrid, but I'm sure as heck not planning on spending $60 to find out if that's a typo! I've never seen any indication anywhere else that it was released as a hybrid (other than the lone track on the Masked and Anonymous sampler).
Can anyone shed any light here?
I, too, am a non-java joe--statistically, we are but 1 in 5 among all red-blooded Amerikans. Sorta like jazz fans, I guess.
Wasn't the Gaslight a coffee house? I'm guessing that "synergy" wasn't really much of a consideration.
I like ice tea alot--and starbunk's has nice, black ice tea . . . but no lemon! Ever. It's a policy. (Note to self: contact Lemon Growers Assn. visa-vie Star-boys . . . can you say "boycott"?).
This whole deal is all about further raising SB's profile as a legit source for music--plus, they know hard-core dylan fans would show up at the truck stop outside Moline if it was carrying new bob . . . also a natural for add'l "free" PR for both sides of the equation.
print/tv coverage, plus lovable geeks like us chatting it up.
hell, if bob can do underwear ads, he can sure cozy up to the world's leading corporate cuppa's.
caught me in an "expansive mood--file under: semi-thread crap. all due apologia.
I wonder if Bob has veto power over this and other exploitation of his catalog, such as the Bootleg Series? Surely he does, yet, given his well-documented "don't look back" philosophy, one wonders if he even cares about or is aware of the reissue of such ancient material as the Gaslight recordings.
i cant imagine anything comes out with his name on it that he hasnt signed off on.
One more cup of coffee for the road...
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