The Beatles - Pitch Shifting

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  1. setalpgninnpsekil

    setalpgninnpsekil Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Greetings.

    I am looking for a list of every Beatles song that they altered the pitch (sped up or slowed down) on after they recorded it, like in "When I'm 64," or the mono version of "She's Leaving Home"

    After a quick search on the forums and Google, I am unable to find this. Can any of you help me?
     
  2. Lownote30

    Lownote30 Bass Clef Addict

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    Don't Pass Me By. Both the stereo and mono versions are sped up... just by different amounts. Across The Universe has been pitched a few different ways as well.
     
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  3. petem1966

    petem1966 Forum Resident

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    Rain would be one, along with I'm Only Sleeping. The classic example, of course, would be Strawberry Fields.
     
  4. Sheik Yerbouti

    Sheik Yerbouti Senior Member

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    IIRC these things are covered in Mark Lewisohn's "The Beatles: Recording Sessions".
     
  5. Pawnmower

    Pawnmower Senior Member

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    I was surprised to learn from Robert Rodriguez's "Revolver" book, that massive chunks of that album were NOT recorded at the speed we're hearing them. Great book.. goes into a lot of detail.
     
  6. RoryStorm

    RoryStorm Forum Resident

    what are some of the disparities on Revolver? Share....
     
  7. Haristar

    Haristar Apollo C. Vermouth

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    Real Love. John sounds like a chipmunk.
     
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  8. Arnold Grove

    Arnold Grove Senior Member

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  9. ponkine

    ponkine Senior Member

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    'Across The Universe'

    Slowed down for Let it Be album
     
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  10. Chuckee

    Chuckee Forum Resident

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    And sped up for the Wildlife version.
     
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  11. Arnold Grove

    Arnold Grove Senior Member

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    Is the Anthology 2 version at the right speed? Arnie
     
  12. Chuckee

    Chuckee Forum Resident

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    LIBN is supposed to be the correct speed for the originally released take. A2 sounds correct to me, but not sure.
     
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  13. Nobby

    Nobby Senior Member

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    Pretty sure it's all detailed in "Recording The Beatles".
     
  14. Lance Hall

    Lance Hall Senior Member

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    There's a difference between a finished recording being sped up or slowed down during the remix versus a vocal track being vari-speeded during recording.

    Vari-speeding a vocal requires the singer to alter how he sings. For example Paul would have had to extend his phrasing to fit the slowed down backing track.
     
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  15. Keith V

    Keith V Forum Resident

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    Not really, only if he was pulling a David Seville. :)
     
  16. Lance Hall

    Lance Hall Senior Member

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    Yes really, obviously not to chipmunks degree.
     
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  17. JimC

    JimC Senior Member

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    So, from reading that, am I right in assuming all the work (speed, mixing) on the A2 version happened in the 1990s? Also, I had forgotten that was a different lead vocal.

    Finally, I've never been clear on this: when Brennan writes that take 3 was mixed down to take 12 and then parts of take 3 "wiped," does that mean certain elements are gone forever? I've wondered about this since reading Lewisohn in the 1980s.
     
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  18. Gems-A-Bems

    Gems-A-Bems Forum Resident

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    Both mono and stereo "She's Leaving Home" are pitch-shifted, just in different ways.

    The piano solo in "In My Life" was played slow and then sped-up to sound like a harpsichord.
     
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  19. Six String

    Six String Senior Member

    The one I always hated was The End on Abbey Road. When the vocal comes in it shifts and if you are playing along, learning the song or simply wanting to play side two with the boys it ruins the end, pun intended.
     
  20. Rocker

    Rocker Senior Member

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    A few songs from the Help! album (eg. "Ticket to Ride", "You've Got to Hide Your Love Away") are somewhere between a quarter-step and a half-step below standard tuning.... but I've never seen a definitive answer about whether this was due to tape speed adjustments, or if the instruments were just tuned down slightly.
     
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  21. When I was trying to learn TtR, I was mildly annoyed that it was not in standard tuning, but interestingly enough, I found a video of the Beatles lip syncing to TtR that was dead nuts standard tuning. I was happy to find it, but it left me scratching my head to explain why.
     
  22. ponkine

    ponkine Senior Member

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    I think many other songs were pitch-altered for the final mix

    If you happen to play on guitar, for example, 'Strawberry Fields', you'll find that is NOT exactly an A :wave:
     
  23. Kim Olesen

    Kim Olesen Gently weeping guitarist.

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    Actually it sounds to me like the original was slowed down. But woith all the varispeeding going on in 66/67 some/all of the tracks may have been recorded at different speeds.
     
  24. Zongadude

    Zongadude Music is the best

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    I remember reading somewhere a George Martin quote saying that the song which got the most altered speed elements in it was "Lucy in the sky". He said something like "there's not one element in it that is played at the original recording speed".
     
  25. Kim Olesen

    Kim Olesen Gently weeping guitarist.

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    Could be accidental. The 4 track running ever so slightly fast and the machine they recorded the mix to running slightly slow. In tape enviroments it does not take much for the final product to be out of pitch.
     
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