The Blacklist with James Spader

Discussion in 'Visual Arts' started by The Panda, Sep 19, 2013.

  1. winojunko76

    winojunko76 Forum Resident

    Wow. :love:
     
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  2. Vidiot

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    All very good theories.

    I smell them setting up a potential plot thing 10 episodes from now where Mr. Kaplan will come back, shoot Red, and in his dying breath, he'll confess the truth to Lizzie about whatever mystery he's hiding.

    It's interesting that Red was not thrown by the revelation that Liz has got her mother's diary and is reading it -- never mind how she manages to read fluent Russian -- and will no doubt uncover some secrets there.

    It would make it a lot easier to end the season and the series with Red Reddington's deathbed confession, but I believe they're already been picked up for Season 5. It's a little maddening, because the baby has basically been turned into a McGuffin for the show, but I dunno what else they can do. The contrivances they've been doing ("Lizzie's dead! No, she's alive! The baby's safe! No, it's kidnapped!") seem to me like the writers are throwing a lot of sh** at the wall and seeing what's sticking.
     
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  3. shokhead

    shokhead Let's get back to basics!

    Mr. Kaplan knows all of Reds secrets and would be very valuable to any of his enemies.
     
  4. PhillR

    PhillR New Member

    The wife & I recently started up on Boston Legal, and so far the first season is super-tight with fantastic writing and pace. It reminds me of those first two seasons of The Blacklist where we couldn't wait to get to the next episodes.

    The Blacklist has now become almost another show completely, as if the original writers got hijacked and replaced with mediocre rookies. We watch it now only out of curiosity, hoping that we get an occasional good episode. This season seems to be specializing in endless scenarios of bad guys escaping seemingly easy capture.
     
  5. Drew

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    I like it how everyone seems to have access to a couple of mercenaries at the drop of a hat. I wonder if they have a phone number or web page "www.mercsrus.com"?
     
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  6. Brenald79

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    I'm still enjoying each week and hope the show goes for 8-10 seasons. Loved the part where Liz is telling Tom on the phone how much it means to her that he didn't trace the video signal and try to rescue the baby while he's in the process of raiding the house with his crew lol :biglaugh:.
     
  7. shokhead

    shokhead Let's get back to basics!

    Liz getting pissed comes off as phony ie bad acting to me
     
  8. Mirrorblade.1

    Mirrorblade.1 Forum Resident

    Getting bored with it writing is to predictable..
     
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  9. rjp

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    babies, actually kids in general, ruin TV shows, just ruin them.
     
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  10. Mirrorblade.1

    Mirrorblade.1 Forum Resident

    So true ugh.. with baby makes tv show turn to crap.
    I wished they would just killed liz off..
    This have to be the last season..
     
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  11. misterdecibel

    misterdecibel Bulbous Also Tapered

    WC Fields was right.
     
  12. Vidiot

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  13. AJH

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    I really agree with you. Just about everything in the last episode was predictable- from Tom going after the baby and Elizabeth's reaction to Tom, and to Mr. Kaplan being chained to the bed. At this point, I'm only watching because I like Spader so much. Another episode like the last one, and I think I'll be done.
     
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  14. EddieVanHalen

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    The circle Liz>Tom>Red>FBI>Baby can go on forever without any surprise turning a good series into a formulaic one consisting of a continuous hide and seek with the high profile offender of the week.
     
  15. The Wanderer

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    still worth the watch
     
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  16. Vidiot

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    They've definitely descended into a pretty ridiculous formula. But the ratings are not terrible.

    I'd point to CSI, Criminal Minds, Law & Order, and NCIS as shows that lasted a long, long, long time sticking to a very predictable formula.
     
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  17. EddieVanHalen

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    I'll keep on watching, but only for some time to see if the relation between Lizzy and Reddington is finally discovered or made public. I think at this point only Mr. Kaplan can bring some substance to the show.
     
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  18. The Wanderer

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    I don't take the weekly story ups and downs seriously, just enjoy the ride
     
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  19. seacliffe301

    seacliffe301 Forum Resident

    If you like Boston Legal, as well as Blacklist, do yourself and pick up season 8 of "The Practice".
    This is the introduction of Alan Shore, and really showcases that character throughout the entire season.
    It also sets up the segue to Boston Legal.

    In hindsight, it seems that the creatives at Blacklist have for the most part let James Spader essentially do more of the same in this series, which is show off.
     
  20. jpelg

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    In this past week's ep, we see that the FBI (and numerous associated security guards) are still somehow unable to contain a single perp already within the confines of a fenced-in major gas substation. But then, we wouldn't have had the high-tension ending, including Aram declaring his pacifist values at the most inopportune time. :rolleyes:
     
  21. Vidiot

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    Spader won three Emmys for that role, so I think he's more than just a show off. He did some very interesting things in The Practice and Boston Legal, and I worked a little bit on the latter show. He was very well-rehearsed and had very, very complicated dialogue day after day and rarely screwed up, so this is not a guy who's showing off on the set -- it's a deliberate performance that stays the same across multiple takes and multiple cameras.
     
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  22. shokhead

    shokhead Let's get back to basics!

    Loved him in stargate.
     
  23. seacliffe301

    seacliffe301 Forum Resident

    I hope my comments were not understood. I probably should have been clearer.

    I have an incredible appreciation for James Spader as an actor for the exact reasons you've cited. His role as Alan Shore and his delivery of very complex dialogue were brilliant. This application of his skill set was exactly what made him so enjoyable to watch. What I had implied was the creatives
    with Blacklist had smartly let him do what he does best: show off. It was meant as a compliment, not disparagement.
     
  24. rjp

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    was there even one person in the entire united states of america that thought that alexander kirk was actually in that car?

    i am quickly losing interest, although they tried to keep the original storyline going with the patent guy and the FBI, the whole liz, tom, and baby thing had better end soon, at least for me anyway. and i really don't even care anymore how the end it, they can kill all 3 of them, just get it done.
     
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  25. misterdecibel

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    I don't care about the love lives of the other members of the FBI team either.
     
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