The Data Is In: You Like The Music You Heard When You Were 14

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Shaddam IV, Feb 12, 2018.

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  1. troggy

    troggy Papa-Oom-Mow-Mow

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    Right, the study shows that past hits are listened to more frequently by people who were adolescents when the music was popular. It doesn't seem to draw any conclusions beyond that.
     
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  2. troggy

    troggy Papa-Oom-Mow-Mow

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    I'm not saying there isn't enough data. I'm saying some of the conclusions being drawn in this thread really have nothing to do with the data.
     
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  3. Kingsley Fats

    Kingsley Fats Forum Resident

    So the data is correct, the conclusion that Stephens-Davidowitz derived from the data is correct, it's the people on this thread that are drawing conclusions that aren't related to the data.
     
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  4. troggy

    troggy Papa-Oom-Mow-Mow

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    Yeah, that's what I think.
     
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  5. Exit Flagger

    Exit Flagger Forum Resident

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    It certainly helps if you turned 14 in a great year for music.
     
  6. Kingsley Fats

    Kingsley Fats Forum Resident

    Yes. I agree with you. No great discovery that people on this forum have managed to turn the well paved, well lit highway to a dark & dusty country track.
     
  7. Kingsley Fats

    Kingsley Fats Forum Resident

    Definitely. Plus you need to add a few years prior to that year as you would be getting exposed to that as well. Not everything you wouldhave been hearing would have been released that year.
     
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  8. Exit Flagger

    Exit Flagger Forum Resident

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    Reverse that top 4, drag up the Pixies and A Tribe Called Quest and throw in Ride, the La's and Happy Mondays and you have a pretty damn good year. No steamer for me.
     
  9. R. Totale

    R. Totale The Voice of Reason

    How does Spotify know how old its users are? I don't remember them ever asking. If they ever did, I probably would have lied.
     
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  10. johnebravo

    johnebravo Forum Resident

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    They have a data sharing arrangement the with NSA. They know a lot more about you than you realize, even if you don't subscribe to Spotify. ;)
     
  11. Exit Flagger

    Exit Flagger Forum Resident

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    Teenage years are intense so the data makes sense to me.

    I feel the same way about my college years and the years I was dating and marrying my wife. Everything seems more intense during those times. Things get more imprinted.

    Plus, as I said, there were some really great years for music at the same time.
     
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  12. Kingsley Fats

    Kingsley Fats Forum Resident

    Your lie would make no material difference in their data analysis as they are looking at the data as a mass & not as individuals.
     
  13. slowhand1964

    slowhand1964 A Tadpole in a Jar

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    Interesting, in my case it is true. 14 in 1978, still listen to ACDC Powerage, Van Halen 1, Styx Renegade, Journey Lights, Cheap Trick I Want You and Surrender, Rolling Stones Miss You, Queen Fat Bottom Girls, the list goes on and on.

    Very interesting.....
     
  14. troggy

    troggy Papa-Oom-Mow-Mow

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    I also don't think the data really leads to anything very interesting. I guess that's also what my previous comment was about.

    All it's really saying is that, since I was 14 in 1978, I'm more likely to be listening to hit songs from that year than someone who was 4, 24 or 44 in 1978. It's mostly tied to Top 40 radio and when people listened to that format.

    I listened to primarily Top 40 radio from age 11 to my early 20's. Beyond that, there's a whole gaggle of hits that I'm completely unfamiliar with, so I obviously won't be listening to those with any frequency. I don't think that's a unique experience. I am familiar with most hits from the 60's, so I do listen to those but I may be a bit more unique in that regard.

    I don't really think any of this is surprising and I'm not sure the conclusions drawn from it, even if they're accurate, really mean very much.
     
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  15. Rne

    Rne weltschmerz

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    Another ridiculous theory.
     
  16. johnebravo

    johnebravo Forum Resident

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    Minor clarification: According to the New York Times article cited in the original post, the Spotify data is not restricted to only Billboard hits. The article says that "the music streaming service Spotify gave me data on how frequently every song is listened to by men and women of each particular age." (emphasis added) The author of the New York Times article then says "I did a similar analysis with every song that topped the Billboard charts from 1960 to 2000. In particular, I measured how old their biggest fans today were when these songs first came out." (emphasis added) In other words, he analyzed a selected subset of the Spotify data. Hence the confusion.
     
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  17. troggy

    troggy Papa-Oom-Mow-Mow

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    Thanks, duly noted.
     
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  18. The Revealer

    The Revealer Forum Status: Paused Indefinitely

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    Living in the Bell Curve has never been for me.

    I have abandoned more music than I've saved from my mid-teens. Late teens to twenties are well represented in my collection. But I still search for new (to me) music. For instance, I never listened to metal until my late '30's and I love a lot of things that appalled me at 15.
     
  19. Jose Jones

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    Whether or not you agree with the premise of the post by the OP, it is good that the data is in.
     
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  20. Vinyl Fan 1973

    Vinyl Fan 1973 "They're like soup, they're like....nothing bad"

    Yes and no. Many things I discovered when I was 14 I still love today, other music I loved I no longer care for. The biggest change is the fact that I adore music at 45 that I never gave a second thought to at 14.

    I think this report is too generalized, and black and white. There are shades of grey when it comes to our tastes in music. Why we listen to something, depends greatly on the mood we are in, and how we progress through life.
     
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  21. Jose Jones

    Jose Jones Outstanding Forum Member

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    There is an anxiety associated with being reduced to mere data that is in and subject to interpretation. Plus, the social media culture has influenced some, even here, that their every feeling is worth publishing.
     
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  22. wwaldmanfan

    wwaldmanfan Born In The 50's

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    Yes, that was the end of 1968 for me. I was attending concerts at the Fillmore East within a year, among other places. Priceless memories.
     
  23. Jose Jones

    Jose Jones Outstanding Forum Member

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    That just further diminishes my limited appreciation of them...
     
  24. Grant

    Grant Life is a rock, but the radio rolled me!

    Then, why are you here? That's how this forum rolls.

    More studies are needed, and not just by Spotify.

    Well, whose fault is that? The medium, or the users of it?
     
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  25. Terrapin Station

    Terrapin Station Master Guns

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    What sort of thing do you expect people to say about the subject on a message board, where they're not talking about their own experience, their own views in relation to the subject? Are you thinking that you're going to get a bunch of message board posts with people acting like journalists (and not editorialists)?
     
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