The dreaded fake 'live' album....

Wow...I didn't know that. Perhaps my favorite KT album.

 

I was so glad that Columbia recitified that when they did the gold CD.

 

On the Bear Family "Stewart Years" Box Set, they included the 'studio takes' without any applause dubbed on, of several tracks from College Concert.

 

I'll say it again here, Genesis' Seconds Out is an album that was recorded in the nest of studios with the crowd noise
faded in and out. I've gotten slammed out here for saying such in the past, along with much of side one to ELP's
Pictures At An Exhibition, with an out-take from the latter included in the expanded Steven Wilson re-mastered
ELP 1...

 

isn't just halfords vocals overdubbed on the priest album due to him being under the weather when it was recorded live?

 

What?? Where did you find this out? Not slamming ya.

Talking Heads - Stop Making Sense makes heavy use of studio overdubs. Someone told me they couldn't get this record to image as a live concert on their system. No wonder.

 

surprised its on spotify. i thought robbie robertson had the release put OOP after it was discovered to not be the watkins glen concert

 

side three of Van der Graaf Generator's Pawn Hearts was going to be a fake live side but the accountants at B&C Records told the suits at Charisma that no one was going to buy a double VDGG album so it was pared down to a single album.

 

no way any of the johnny winter or mountain official bootleg releases have overdubs or studio tinkiering. anyone who owns any of these releases knows why i saw that

 

How do you know this about the PG?

 

.....nor Gram Parsons fans...nor people for that matter.

 

For some reason Maiden made a point of not overdubbing anything ever, altough it's clear that they did. The vocals on the Donnington material was overdubbed. And the B-side live version of Remember Tomorrow that was claimed to be recorded in Italy during the first tour with Bruce was actually the Maiden Japan version with new vocals.

 

And from what I recall from past threads you believe this because it doesn't sound like a bootleg. Of course it doesn't, it was carefully mixed.

 

Beatles live at the hollywood bowl. From different performances but no overdubbing.

 

No. It was recorded at three track. Impossible to edit in individual parts in from other takes. A song or two may be a combination of performances. Dizzy Miss Lizzy comes to mind. But that does not constitude fake live album.

 

Not sure if this album was mentioned, Slade Alive 1972. It's my favorite from Slade but it always sounded like the audience was fake or added in.
Anyone have any info on that recording?

 

Old post but I don't know if anyone addressed it. GG said it was "tampered with" a little bit (some keyboard parts were redone in the studio due to tech problems at the shows).

 

it is not impossible. not in 1976-1977. Not even with 3-track.

besides, there's proof.

And i never said it's a fake live album. A fake live album would've sounded much better in this case.

 

Takes were edited together. Not individual instrumental performances.

 

All i can say is that it wasn't impossible and the only person who knows or knew is Mr.Martin.

 

No. You implied there is proof. Which there isnt. And i have worked in tape equipped studios so i can tell you that editing together different instrumental performances from a three track live recording where there would be lots of leakage is impossible. Tempos would not match. The original performance would still be audible in the vocal mics etc etc. Even with digital editing that recording would be nearly impossible to edit because of these issues.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_at_Watkins_Glen

 

Re: Live After Death

Can you give any examples of where the vocal is overdubbed on the stereo as opposed to the surround remix? I have not noticed those discrepancies before.

 

Aces High for instance. It's pretty obvious, actually.

 

There are also bootlegs of the raw tapes, and I've never noticed any difference from the released recordings (editing and sound quality aside).