The Edsel Robert Palmer remasters

I am amused by another reviewer who claimed they've separated the medley on 'Sneakin' Sally...'. If true, that is a colossal **** up.

 

I visit the Pop Justice forum (UK-based) and those of us in the reissue thread are appreciative of your review, and fans who paid for this are upset to learn about the mp3 files. Likewise, a reviewer on that forum pointed out that one of the bonus tracks on the reissue of Kim Wilde's Close is a vinyl rip (though, the album itself was remastered from masters).

Now I am wondering about my other Edsel reissues. I have a number of them - Rick Astley, Belinda Carlisle, Janis Ian, Thompson Twins, and I am planning to purchase the six upcoming Bananarama reissues.

 

Agree. I also love your Jackie Lomax avartar.

 

When I first received mine I played 1 or 2 in the car and they sounded decent there. When I finally got to play them on my main system I noticed something was off, then I found this thread. What a disgrace for Edsel. Already initiated a return via Amazon UK. Posted some comments on Edsel's Facebook page and sent them an email too. Very disappointing.

 

If the Mink DeVille and Motels reissues are anything to go by, the Culture Factory reissues are just as bad, but in a different way. They're maximized and bright beyond belief. It seems the original Island discs are the way to go for collecting Robert Palmer albums.

Anyway, thanks for the warning sign. I can hardly believe what I'm reading here. MP3's? Really? Has quality controle, or even the striving for quality, dropped so low that these companies think they can get away with this? I agree with other posters in this thread - the only ones who are interested in (re-)buying those old Robert Palmer titles are people like us, people who care about SQ.
I was thinking about picking up this series, even though I have most of the Island titles. I don't care too much for Maybe it's live, but would like to add Some people... to my collection. Seems like the one that's offered on Amazon.co.uk for GBP 12,99 is the only way to go for this. And even that one looks a bit shade to me - They don't state it, but I think that it's a so-called 'disc-on-demand', meaning that it's a CD-R. Sigh.... What a sad state of affairs for enjoying music anno 2013...

 

I'm thinking of another thing. I can see the point, in the near future, that I will stop collecting CDs completely. My music room is just about filled to the brim with great music, I have circa 95 per cent of what I ever would like to own when it comes to back catalog music and besides, I'm not overly thrilled with most 'new' music. So if I ever decide to buy that stray song or album and enjoy it as a losless WAV-file or something like that, how can I ever be sure that I won't get a losless file from an already lossy MP3? This practice is really messing up the market for audiophile or quality downloads as well. It appears the companies just can't be trusted.

 

http://en.true-audio.com/Analyzer.project

 

It would seem that Edsel are hit and miss, not always awful. Are they reliant on the sources given to them by the record companies they license from?

I've checked out a few of the rarer tracks on the Deacon Blue and Levellers reissues I have from Edsel and they are all sourced from WAV files, no mp3's showing.

I 'think' I checked the Ian McCulloch's when I got them and they were ok too, but that was some time ago.

 

So no need to out my Island originals then?

 

I can hardly believe what I'm reading!? I hope Edsel / Demon will make a statement about these reissues. For now I will avoid all releases by that company.

 

While it may take some time, I think it is worth it to track down the originals for the Palmer catalog. The only reissues I could possibly be interested in would be audiophile quality SACDs. Seems to me that Analogue Productions should step up.

 

Amen to that!

 

I picked up all my Robert Palmer Island original CDs in the last couple of years for $2-$10 on eBay. With a little patience you can find them for very cheap. And NM condition vinyl is readily available and sounds great.

 

I've got loads of those, too.

 

CDs mastered from mp3s, this is ridiculous. I'll complete my collection with used vinyl from the euro bins that's easy to find over here.

 

Edsel is refuting the claims superdeluxeedition is reporting.

http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/news/edsel-refute-robert-palmer-mp3-mastering-claims/

 

Clearly frustrated with the situation Val added, ”I really don’t know what else to say. It’s shame that people can’t just be glad that someone has reissued the records, instead of trying to find or invent faults.”



In other words, we should simply buy these reissued CDs. So stop complaining and just spend your money as Val sees fit.

 

So Val forgot to explain why there is nothing above 16 kHz. I've ripped hundreds of CD's and I've never seen a 16 kHz cutoff.

 

It's a non-denial denial. "I can but assume" in this case means that Val doesn't really know what Universal did with their tapes, nor who transferred them, nor what equipment the transfers passed through, nor to what end formats. All he knows is that their tape library gave Edsel some source CDs — which may not themselves have contained MP3s, but that in no way rules out the possibility of there being MP3 in their lineage.

We have evidence that there was lossy compression in the lineage and it's been independently confirmed... yet here Val is implying that we just made it up! Why we caught it and they did not — that is the question they must ask themselves, not "can customers actually NOT always be right?"

 

Anyone think the mods should enhance the thread title to something along the lines:

Edsel Palmer Remasters: MP3 Source Suspected

 

It's not ALL of the Edsel reissues, mind you, just the latest series. I don't think we need to imply otherwise.

 

The Thompson Twins needle drops rival my own- minus the compression of course

 

What he actually wanted to say is: ”I really don’t know what else to say. We don't know and we don't care about the quality of the material that is provided by the labels. It’s shame that people can’t just be glad that someone has reissued the records and simply buy any trash we're dumping on the market, ignoring even the most obvious faults.”

Shame on you, Mr. Jennings, for being either deceitful or completely incompetent ...

 

You should post your great reaction also as response to that news article of superdeluxeedition.com!

 

It's a shame all tracks are cut off at 16kHz. A dead give away it's sourced from MP3s. Really, really stupid on Edsel's part. My advice would be to return those CDs and spread the word!