The Fall - Album by Album by Single by Cassette thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Jim B., Dec 10, 2015.

  1. Willowman

    Willowman Forum Resident

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    This also gets frequent plays on long car journeys. All the hits and more!

    (Although I did get asked to turn it off recently by a chap I was giving a lift to. Apparently he preferred 'baroque' music. And madrigals. We completed the journey in silence.)
     
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  2. Mr. Odd

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    _50,000 Fall Fans Can't Be Wrong_ is absolutely the first place a new fan, or a fan who got off the bus long ago, should start. At two discs it's the appropriate length but not too long like the Red Box can be.

    As I said, sometimes I just want a great overview of an artists output, and this is it for the Fall. Two discs is 2-2.5 hours and is just about all I'd want in one sitting from any artist.

    Except when I play the Peel box, that just pulls me in for hours and hours. :love:
     
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  3. Neonbeam

    Neonbeam All Art Was Once Contemporary

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    Wait a minute! Someone you were giving a lift to asked you to turn off the music of your choice? In your car? If he is so besotted with Baroque why not go (or rather walk:evil:) all the way and get out?

    That bloke was lucky MES wasn't in the car with him:buttkick:
     
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  4. Willowman

    Willowman Forum Resident

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    He isn't getting a lift again!
     
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  5. Hi Five

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    My Castle 2004 expanded deluxe edition of Grotesque has an error in the booklet. The Daryl Easlea album notes are covered by paper clippings so therefore unreadable.
     
  6. Jim B.

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    Theme From Sparta F.C. #2

    Released on June 2004 on Action Records (CD and 7")

    01. Theme From Sparta F.C. #2 (Smith/Watts/Pritchard) 3:52

    02. My Ex Classmate's Kids (live) (Smith/Blaney) 5:01

    03. Theme From Sparta F.C. video (mpeg-1 video file) 4:28

    Mark E Smith - vocals
    Ben Pritchard - guitar, vocals
    Simon "Ding" Archer - bass
    Dave Milner - drums, vocals
    Elena Poulou - keyboards, vocals

    Produced by: Mark E Smith and Simon "Ding" Archer


    Some pressings of the CD also include a WAV and MP3 version of the track Portugal which was left on by mistake.

    A worthy addition to the Fall singles discography although not much in terms of added content. You are better off buying the US CD to get the A side now.
     
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  7. Tonmeister

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    I have this on 7" and is one of the few Fall releases I have from my own Fall 'wilderness years' where I kind of stopped following them for an extended period. Sparta FC is a monster track, maybe even trumps Kicker Conspiracy as their ultimate football anthem.

    There is such a great video for this online, the visuals of which are an edit of a 1988 short film, 'Virile Games' by Czech animator, Jan Švankmajer. Anyone know the story behind this, was it a legitimate use of the video or something someone mashed up for YouTube? Works perfectly with the track and is way better than the official video for the song.

     
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  8. andres lira

    andres lira Forum Resident

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    The best song about football ever written? The dig towards Chelsea FC gives it extra points.
     
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  9. Jim B.

    Jim B. Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    What has Andres from Peru got against the mighty Chelsea?
     
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  10. gohill

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    Yes, this is without doubt the best and most considered Fall compilation. A true diamond in the rough with Sanctuary actually bothering to get tracks licensed right across the breadth of their career for a proper overview. Well chosen tracklisting with decent packaging. I doubt there will be a more definitive compilation of the band's studio career. Comes close to In: A Palace Of Swords Reversed in terms of comps, but that one was focussing on a specific period and came out at a time when the material on it was hard to get so a different beast.
     
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  11. gohill

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    "the mighty Chelsea" :sigh:
     
  12. Instant Dharma

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    Palace was my gateway into the Wonderful and Frightening world. Can you believe emusic used to carry a ton of Fall albums??
     
  13. Jim B.

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    What? :)
     
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  14. noahjld

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    Crystal Palace??
     
  15. Jim B.

    Jim B. Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    In Crystal Palace of scores reversed!
     
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  16. Instant Dharma

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    Crystal Palace of Severed Words
     
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  17. Tonmeister

    Tonmeister Well-Known Member

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    Come on I will show you how I will change
    When you give me something to slaughter


    ... a great dissection of the hooligan/mob mentality. Sadly gaining new traction around the world given some of the dark forces being unleashed by recent political events.
     
  18. noahjld

    noahjld Forum Resident

    Been on a "Paintwork" listening binge lately. What a track.
     
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  19. noahjld

    noahjld Forum Resident

    Could Dylan write like M.E.S.?
     
  20. Tonmeister

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    When I hear it, I often wonder was Kevin Shields a fan - those overdriven guitar sections sound a lot like what he would go on to develop on Loveless etc.
     
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  21. Summer of Malcontent

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    Thanks to this heads up, I picked up this CD, and it's really strong. The live mix is a bit muddy (the final four tracks from a different gig are better), but the band is on fire, and startlingly, all of these songs turn out to be Great Fall Songs (even 'Pearl City', and I couldn't even tell you what album that's from, the studio version left so little impression on me). I knew that trawling through all of these marginal releases would eventually pay dividends.
     
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  22. Jim B.

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    2004 was quite light on new Fall material and also the plethora of dodgy live albums and compilations seemed to have grind to a halt. 2004 was memorable though as, following the acquisition of the rights, Sanctuary began their reissue campaign.

    Although we have covered these when discussing the original albums it does deserve special mention as we finally got a proper comprehensive reissue campaign worthy of a band of the Fall’s stature. Most albums had an additional disc with bonus material and many rarities were officially released. Without getting into a discussion about any modern mastering issues the sound was the best that could be achieved, given many of the tapes were missing, but there were no bad needle drops anymore. It seems the original IRS tapes were discovered at EMI for the first two albums, which meant we got the alternative takes on Dragnet, and things like the alternative versions of the PBL got included.

    The only hole in the whole thing was the missing Look, Know!

    It was great to have almost every album back in print in expanded editions so well done to all those involved.

    Anyway, a few oddities that did come out during 2004 that can be grouped together – a couple of promo items and a MES guest vocal:

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    2 Librans

    Released July 2004 on Voiceprint 7” (one sided)

    01. 2 Librans (Demo Version) (Smith/Nagle/Head/Helal/Wilding) 3:37

    Mark E Smith - vocals
    Julia Nagle - keyboards, guitar
    Neville Wilding - guitar
    Adam Helal - bass
    Tom Head - drums

    Produced by: Grant Showbiz and Mark E Smith

    Limited edition of 500 copies sent out as part as some coupon collection deal with Voiceprint. In typical MES fashion it was supposed to be a full length CD you got but MES had since sold the rights to Sanctuary so this was sent out as a replacement.

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    Blind Man

    Released September 2004 on Voiceprint CD

    01. Blind Man (Demo Version) (Smith/Birtwistle) 4:54



    Mark E Smith - vocals
    Ben Pritchard - guitar
    Jim Watts - guitar
    Steve Trafford - bass
    Spencer Birtwistle - drums
    Elena Poulou - keyboards
    Ed Blaney - guitar

    Produced by: Mark E Smith

    A promo sent out by Voiceprint to people who had bought Fall stuff, this is a demo version that would appear on the album Interim later. BTW, 'Cocked' was the original name of what would become Interim.



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    Mouse On Mars - Wipe That Sound
    Released in Germany November 2004 (12" single)

    MES vocals on the tracks Cut The Gain and Wipe That Sound

    Mouse on Mars are the German experimental duo Jan St. Werner and Andi Toma. A significant collaboration as it would lead to the Tromatic Reflexxions album by Von Sudenfed (who were just Mouse on Mars and MES under a different name).

    I’ve never heard this one I must admit.
     
  23. noahjld

    noahjld Forum Resident

    "The Mixer" & "The Re-Mixer" on very heavy rotation now.
     
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  24. noahjld

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    Bonkers In Phoenix and Das Katerer.
     
  25. Jim B.

    Jim B. Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Interim

    Released November 2004 on Hip Priest via Voiceprint (CD only)

    01. All Clasp Hands (Smith/Trafford) 3:32
    02. Blindness (Smith/Birtwistle) 3:26
    03. What About Us? (Smith/Poulou) 6:29
    04. I'm Ronney The Oney (Smith/Blaney) 1:33
    05. Green-Eyed Snorkel (Smith/Watts) 6:49
    06. Mod Mock Goth (Smith/Poulou) 2:50
    07. Wrong Place (Smith) 2:39
    08. Sparta FC No.3 (Smith) 3:41
    09. Mere Psued Mag. Ed. (Smith) 3:21
    10. Spoilt Victorian Childe (Smith) 5:06
    11. Boxoctosis Alarum (Smith/Watts) 3:17

    Mark E Smith - vocals
    Ben Pritchard - guitar
    Jim Watts - guitar
    Steve Trafford - bass
    Spencer Birtwistle - drums
    Elena Poulou - keyboards
    Ed Blaney - guitar

    Produced by: Mark E Smith

    These recordings date from August and September 2004 and are mostly studio rehearsals with some live recordings.

    This is a bad idea badly executed IMO. I guess the thinking was, as there was no studio album released this year, to satisfy people’s appetites by this ‘stop-gap’ release. Quite why they thought we couldn’t just wait a while for the LP proper is beyond me (it’s not like we had been starved of Fall product to buy) and then the content left a lot to be desired, early versions of tracks from the next album and then some versions of older tracks. Pretty pointless to me. I was very disappointed with this release at the time and it’s not something I would choose to play again now. A CD of rehearsals? Why would we want that?
     
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