Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Jim B., Dec 10, 2015.
Never heard this one, and don't have any desire to.
I haven't listened to Interim for a long time but I seem to remember "I'm Ronney the Oney" having the makings of being a great track but then it stops just as it's getting going.
At the time, after a wonderful real album, it was kind of reassuring that the Fall got back to what they did best in the early noughties: bundling a bunch of half-cocked toenail clippings together and calling it an album. The only good thing I can say about Interim is that it successfully re-lowered my expectations so that Fall Heads Roll also came as a very pleasant surprise (rather than a slight decline).
Rude (All The Time) EP
Released February 2005 on Hip Priest via Voiceprint (CD only)
01. Distilled Mug Art (Mix 15) (Smith/Blaney) 3:36
02. I Wake Up In The City (Mix 5) (Smith/Blaney) 4:51
03. Where's The ****in Taxi? **** (Mix 17) (Smith/Les Fisher/Brian Fanning/Blaney) 5:11
04. My Ex Classmates Kids (Mix 4) (Smith/Blaney) 4:57
Mark E Smith - vocals
Ben Pritchard - guitar
Jim Watts - bass, guitar
Ed Blaney - guitar
Spencer Birtwistle - drums
Produced by: Mark E Smith, Ed Blaney and Spencer Birtwistle
An easy winner for me for weakest Fall single. Quite why this even exists is beyond me. It doesn’t even include the title track.
These are four year old recordings, alternative versions of tracks made during the ‘Blaney’ years. Plus track 3, which I’ll give them points for humour in calling it ‘Mix 17’. I think it’s just MES and Blaney talking. Screams quick cash grab to me. The title track was due to be included but taken off at the last minute at MES’s request.
I bought this on release not knowing a great deal about it, thinking it was just the latest Fall release and as they were back on track was expecting something good. Wish I hadn’t.
Waste of a great ep title.
I apologize for missing so much of this thread but I just wanted to say how much it pains me to see all that bashing of Levitate, one of the great works of the 20th Century.
The Complete Peel Sessions 1978-2004
Released April 2005 on Castle, 6CD Box set.
01. Futures And Pasts 2:38
02. Mother-Sister! 3:09
03. Rebellious Jukebox 3:01
04. Industrial Estate 1:47
05. Put Away 3:33
06. Mess Of My 3:15
07. No Xmas For John Quays 4:13
08. Like To Blow 1:47
09. Container Drivers 3:40
10. Jawbone And The Air-Rifle 3:24
11. New Puritan 7:13
12. New Face In Hell 5:05
13. Middlemass 3:55
14. Lie Dream Of A Casino Soul 2:44
15. Hip Priest 9:26
16. C'n'C-Hassle Schmuck 4:13
17. Deer Park 4:27
18. Look, Know 5:08
19. Winter 8:03
20. Who Makes The Nazis? 2:57
21. Smile 5:12
22. Garden 10:02
23. Hexen Definitive - Strife Knot 9:09
24. Eat Y'self Fitter 7:04
25. Pat Trip Dispenser 4:10
26. 2 x 4 4:16
27. Words Of Expectation 9:15
28. C.R.E.E.P. 2:37
29. Cruiser's Creek 5:51
30. Couldn't Get Ahead 2:34
31. Spoilt Victorian Child 4:57
32. Gut Of The Quantifier 4:44
33. L.A. 4:35
34. The Man Whose Head Expanded 5:16
35. What You Need 5:52
36. Faust Banana 5:07
37. Hot Aftershave Bop 3:11
38. R.O.D. 4:26
39. Gross Chapel-GB Grenadiers 6:22
40. US 80's-90's 4:55
41. Athlete Cured 4:46
42. Australians In Europe 5:52
43. Twister 5:07
44. Guest Informant 3:11
45. Deadbeat Descendant 2:19
46. Cab It Up 4:42
47. Squid Lord 3:49
48. Kurious Oranj 5:58
49. Chicago Now 5:35
50. Black Monk Theme 4:07
51. Hilary 2:23
52. Whizz Bang 3:02
53. The War Against Intelligence 3:04
54. Idiot Joy Showland 3:47
55. A Lot Of Wind 5:25
56. The Mixer 4:32
57. Free Range 4:06
58. Kimble 3:55
59. Immortality 4:28
60. Return 4:11
61. Ladybird (Green Grass) 4:05
62. Strychnine 2:54
63. Service 3:36
64. Paranoia Man In Cheap **** Room 4:19
65. M5 3:09
66. Behind The Counter 4:05
67. Reckoning 3:42
68. Hey! Student 4:10
69. Glam Racket - Star 3:23
70. Jingle Bell Rock 1:09
71. Hark The Herald Angels Sing 3:10
72. Numb At The Lodge 3:03
73. He Pep! 4:17
74. Oleano 3:11
75. Chilinist 5:23
76. The City Never Sleeps 3:00
77. D.I.Y. Meat 2:34
78. Spinetrak 2:41
79. Spencer 3:34
80. Beatle Bones 'N' Smokin' Stones 3:40
81. Calendar 3:00
82. Touch Sensitive 3:36
83. Masquerade 6:34
84. Jungle Rock 6:23
85. Bound Soul One 3:50
86. Antidotes 4:59
87. Shake-Off 1:43
88. This Perfect Day 2:18
89. Theme from Sparta F.C. 3:55
90. Contraflow 4:06
91. Grooving With Mr Bloe - Green-Eyed Loco Man 6:06
92. Mere Pseud Mag. Ed. 3:20
93. Clasp Hands 4:44
94. Blindness 6:29
95. What About Us? 5:52
96. Wrong Place, Right Time - I Can Hear The Grass Grow 7:02
97. Job Search 4:20
Every Peel session track ever recorded. Track 52 was never broadcast at the time and track 97 was a special track recorded for Peel’s 65th Birthday and pressed up as a single for him.
After the single and double CD Peel releases we finally got the complete set! The Mother of all Fall boxsets and pretty much the holy grail as far as fans are concerned. Peel and the Fall will be forever closely linked in the minds of UK Fall fans. Many fans discovered the band through his show and a new Peel session was always something to look forward to – new Fall material and an idea of where the group were heading musically.
The set can function as a brilliant ‘alternative history’ or a great introduction for the curious.
Highlights are all over the place quite frankly, but the standouts for me are the New Puritan session and the PBL session (which is far superior to the album in my opinion). Just a shame there was never a Dragnet session that would have at least rescued four tracks from the album with a better production.
I have some minor gripes – I think the design is poor and cheap looking. It probably was cheap to keep costs down but I think a release like this deserved better packaging with maybe a book with a history and lots of period photos. Something like they did on the Complete Motown Singles compilations maybe or ‘The Kinks at the BBC’.
This is simply an amazing release. Lots of definitive recordings here, but the two I cherish the most are killer tunes that fail almost completely in their official studio versions: 'Squid Lord' and 'Numb at the Lodge'. When I first listened to the box set, my immediate thought for both of them was "What an amazing song! I wonder why they never recorded it for an album or single?"
Come on! You are making these releases up. Are you???
This was my last Fall purchase, although I received one later release as a gift from my wife who didn't know I was among the Fallen. I'm pretty sure I haven't listened to it all, although it's comforting to know I can if I want to. I've always enjoyed a disc from it when I've decided to play one.
Great set. Great alternate versions, especially tracks that appear on albums with questionable production decisions.
I keep this on my phone for emergencies.
best version of "Blindness", bit of a cliche to say that, admittedly.
Hey, it's not a cliché - it's God's truth!
The one-two punch of "New Puritan" and "New Face In Hell".
The PBL session. "Eat Y'Self Fitter" in particular is just a monster.
The otherwise unreleased "Words Of Expectation", which feels like a PBL outtake.
Killer Brix-era version of "The Man Whose Head Expanded". I don't think I could choose between this and the single version!
The Bend Sinister session followed by the Frenz session, which should make you revisit that album.
"A Lot Of Wind", which totally redeems the track for me.
"Kimble", the fun reggae-ish experiment.
"Glam Racket - Star" takes a great track and makes it even better.
The Light User Syndrome sessions in 1995 & 1996, the last gasp for that lineup goes out in style.
The two 21st century sessions are utter brilliance, especially the revisitation of "Mere Pseud Mag Ed" and the mighty, might "Blindness".
After not having them on his show for a number of years, it's good that John went out hearing greatness restored to his favorite band.
Places they let me down:
"Hey! Student" pales before the studio version.
The two 1998 sessions are fairly worthless, and I adore "Masquerade", "Antidotes", and "Shake Off"!
I haven't listened to the entire box since 2009 (according to my media server). Time to queue it up!
I haven't tested the theory myself, but I seem to recall someone posting in a different thread that the Peel sessions on the various deluxe editions of the LPs sound better than the box?
Yes, most of them appear to be more dynamic, less compressed than (if you do care about such a thing).
The '86 and '87 sessions are so good. Of course, in typical Fall fashion only Athlete Cured from the '87 one actually made it to the subsequent LP!
I'd also add Ladybird to this list. A much more powerful version compared to the album counterpart.
Live At Deeply Vale
Released June 2005 on Ozit Records (CD only)
01. Repetition (Baines/Burns/Friel/Bramah/Smith) 6:20
02. Psycho Mafia (Friel/Smith) 2:27
03. Rebellious Jukebox (Smith/Bramah) 3:18
04. Frightened (Smith/Friel) 4:55
05. Stepping Out (Smith/Friel) 2:47
06. Like To Blow (Smith/Bramah) 1:46
07. Mess Of My (Bramah/Smith/Goldstraw) 2:55
08. Mother-Sister! (Smith/Baines) 3:22
09. Industrial Estate (Friel/Bramah/Smith) 1:52
10. It's The New Thing (Smith/Bramah) 3:28
11. Futures And Pasts (Smith/Bramah) 3:02
12. Music Scene (Smith/Bramah/Pawlett/Riley) 4:59
13. Medley: Psycho Mafia - Dresden Dolls - Industrial Estate (Friel/Smith-Baines/Burns/Friel/Bramah/Smith-Bramah/Friel/Smith) 2:18
Mark E Smith - vocals
Martin Bramah - guitar, vocals
Marc Riley - bass
Karl Burns - drums
Yvonne Pawlett - keyboards
Produced by: Chris Hewitt
Tracks 1-12 recorded live at the People's Free Festival at Deeply Vale on 22 July 1978. Track 13 is a medley of studio or rehearsal takes.
Mark E Smith "Deeply Vale was great to play, It was just up the road for us. I don't like festivals but I loved Deeply Vale".
A boxset of all the acts was released some time later and here is some blurb from that:
“Deeply Vale was important as it was the first of the free festivals to open its stage to Punk & New Wave bands and it was also intertwined with the Manchester Rock Against Racism movement. Long before any other festival it crossed the hippy punk divide; its where Planet Gong/Here and Now met The Fall and hippy soundman Grant Showbiz would strike up a 35 year relationship as producer for The Fall. Here and Now would take The Fall, Danny and the Dressmakers (inc future 808 State man Graham Massey), Wilful Damage and Alternative TV on their anarchic tours after Deeply Vale. The Ruts were formed in a tent at Deeply Vale in 1977 after two members of London Funk band Hit and Run saw the The Drones perform a punk set on stage. The 1978 Festival not only included Steve Hillage, Here and Now and Nik Turner but also The Fall, Durutti Column and The Ruts.”
This is something of a historical document. I don’t own this one myself as reviews at the time were not good in regard to sound quality. The final medley some people seem to think is from the So It Goes show, when Tony Wilson interviewed them.
I like the cover though, great picture!
It is a great picture...of the Scanlan, Riley, Hanley lineup.
I agree - there's a big gaping gap in their development unrecorded by Peel between the 2 Witch Trials sessions and the Grotesque one that irritatingly sticks one when you hear the set in order. Having said that, there is technically one Dragnet song on there - 'Put Away' is on the second session in a different earlier arrangement.
That's the one. That's what people say, as the audio of those tracks was unique I guess.
I have this one, its a clear winner for crappy sound for dodgy Fall live releases, and that's saying something....
Sounds as if it was recorded on an old Boots C90 on a crappy 70's cassette player hidden in an beat up Addidas bag!
A valuable addition to anyone's collection, will probably get released on vinyl for RSD next year.
The cover's too good. Needs clip art and sharpie scrawl and a more confusing title and then you're talking.
(Yes, it is the real cover.)
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