The *Frank Sinatra* recordings thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Sean Keane, Sep 22, 2008.

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  1. Jack White

    Jack White Senior Member

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    Thanks. I found this fact interesting (from your link):

    On the soundtrack there is an intro to the first version of "Bewitched", sung by the Vera character. The dialogue is spoken by Hayworth and I would have sworn the singing voice is her's as well. I'll have to go back and pay more attention to the credits for the film.
     
  2. Bob F

    Bob F Senior Member

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    I don't know about "Bewitched" (I'm away from home and unable to check my DVD copy), but there is a difference between the movie soundtrack and the album in the song "Zip"... see post #62 later in that same SFF thread.
     
  3. Couldn't agree more, assuming you mean the Sinatra/Jobim LP that was pulled, right? That's probably my favorite Sinatra LP.
     
  4. kt66brooklyn

    kt66brooklyn Senior Member

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    I've just picked up a big stack of 50's Capitol EP's. I bought them because they were super cheap and they were in stone mint condition. The original owner recorded all of his 45's on to reel to reel tapes, so they were barely played.

    There were also some RCA, Decca, and ABC Ep's from the same era. None of those sounded very good, even though they were in the same condition as the Capitols. I only picked up a couple of Columbia's but they both sound great.

    The shocker of shockers is that the Capitols sound incredible! They might loose something in the bass, only when there are two tracks to a side, but everything else gains in fidelity. The real shocker is a single 'Only the Lonely' 45. It only has one track on each side and it boasts 'extended versions' of each tune. The bass on side two is great, the best I have ever heard from a 50's record. In minty shape, these are quiet pressings and the mastering is really good. I don't know if there are pressing plant differences, these were all pressed on the east coast, or if there are other pressing differences. Either way, I'm pleasantly shocked. The early ones, such as 'Swing Easy' are as good as the later ones.

    Anyone else have this experience?
     
  5. Bob F

    Bob F Senior Member

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    Marketing hype on the EP cover. "Only The Lonely" (and "Blues In The Night" on the flip side) are the same versions as on the LP. They were each too long to permit two songs on a side.
     
  6. SteveS1

    SteveS1 Forum Resident

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    Just picked up a Capitol set dating from 1990 for $12, sounds very good to me. Much better than a later "Songs For Swinging Lovers" that I have.
     
  7. Sneaky Pete

    Sneaky Pete Flat the 5 and That’s No Jive

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    Based on this thread, I just picked up the 1990 three CD set, Frank Sinatra The Capital Years. I got it used for $15.00 and it does sound very good, thanks for the recommendation.

    I have quite a few gaps in my Sinatra CD collection, and this is a great overview of the Capital stuff.
     
  8. 3rd Uncle Bob

    3rd Uncle Bob Forum Resident

    This Is Frank Sinatra 1953-1957

    I'm wondering if this set needs a RIAA eq adjustment? It has a lot of high end but not much in the bass department. It almost sounds right if I give it a bass boost and a treble cut on my receiver, but I think it needs some mid-bass boost to bring out Frank's lower register.
     
  9. Yovra

    Yovra Collector of Beatles Threads

    Currently 'discovering' the fantastic "At The Sands"; a nice 'loose' and yet quite powerful recording. I love the Capitol-albums, but this could be my favourite Sinatra-cd!
     
  10. wave

    wave Forum Resident

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    Energy, atmosphere, Frank and Basie... Great, great album. You may also want to check out the Sinatra-Vegas box set. It includes an alternate performace from the '66 Sands engagement (minus "One for My Baby," "Where or When," "Angel Eyes") plus 3 other live Sinatra Vegas gigs: The Sands 1961 (Frank is in GREAT voice here), Caesars Palace 1982 and The Golden Nugget 1987. It also includes a DVD video of Sinatra performing at Caesars Palace in 1978.

    Additionally, there's a DVD-Audio of Sinatra at the Sands, but you're probably not missing too much there.
     
  11. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff

    I came across this Jazz Heritage issue of IN THE WEE SMALL HOURS in a shop in Portland, OR, recently. I already have umpteen versions of this album, so I passed on this one, but I have to ask: Is this super-unusual or rare? The fine print on the back indicates that this is copyright 1991 by Capitol, so I'm guessing it's the Walsh-mastered version.
    SinatraMHSFront.jpg SinatraMHSBack.jpg
     
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  12. Greg1954

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    That would have been an issue from the jazz branch of Musical Heritage Society.

    It's a mail order CD club that I subscribe to. I don't know how rare it is. As you said it's probably the Larry Walsh mastering.
     
  13. MMM

    MMM Forum Hall Of Fame

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    It's also got a '98 date on it, so it could be the Norberg.
     
  14. Greg1954

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    Unless MHS got the deal to issue the Walsh after the Norberg become 'the one.'
     
  15. wave

    wave Forum Resident

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    I didn't hear a dramatic difference betwen the Nordberg WSH and Walsh's. Then again, I only heard it one time with headphones back in '98.
     
  16. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff

    Martin, stop using your eyeballs so efficiently!

    No joke: I actually held that disc in my hands, and I was so distracted by the 1991 date that my (poorly functioning) eyeballs blew right past the 1998 date a few lines below.
     
  17. MMM

    MMM Forum Hall Of Fame

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    Both have their problems. Larry's is the better of the two, but...
     
  18. Bob F

    Bob F Senior Member

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    I can't tell you how rare these are, but Jazz Heritage put their name on a number of Capitol CDs, including:

    514803A Frank Sinatra With Red Norvo
    514952M In The Wee Small Hours
    514953M Come Dance With Me
    514991T Where Are You?
    515020M Songs For Young Lovers / Swing Easy!
    515022F Sinatra's Swingin' Session!!! and More​

    The first title is the same as the 1997 Live In Australia, 1959 CD. Based on that date and the catalog numbers, one might assume the others are taken from the 1998 Entertainer of the Century reissues...

    Not necessarily. The liner notes of the 1998 (Bob Norberg) CD credit Larry Walsh. Someone at Capitol forgot to update the credits. It's not the only time that's happened.
     
  19. YorkeS9

    YorkeS9 Forum Resident

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    I mailed Universal: The new Reprise-CDs released by Universal here in europe won't be remastered. But additional tracks are possible.
     
  20. Sean Keane

    Sean Keane Pre-Mono record collector In Memoriam Thread Starter

    Oh! Look At Me Now with Nelson Riddle 28.11.56

    I believe this is the perfect example of Sinatra doing what he did best - vocalizing like no one else had ever done and like no one else could ever even hope to replicate . I've been listening to it a few times a week for the last few months and I'm still knocked out by this fantastic reinvention of a song which was never exactly a showstopper, but one that he turned into what I now believe may be the greatest popular swinging vocal recording of all time.

    It hit me weeks ago - His ballsy singing of this is not a man bragging that he's now a rich guy who's also happened to become the world's greatest lover (how, I do not know :laugh:), but a man celebrating and ecstatic that he's become this superman. He's just so happy. And to exclaim his exaltation, the messenger delivers it in a way that confident joy has never been exclaimed before. How can you not believe he's telling the truth?
     
  21. wave

    wave Forum Resident

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    Agreed. The version he did to close the '57 Seattle concert (with Nelson Riddle conducting) is a close second. Again, there's something happy and grateful (for lack of a better word) about he sang that song. Unfortunately, A Swingin' Affair gets lost in the wake of SFSL and OTL. Too bad. It's filled with prime Sinatra performances.
     
  22. mbleicher1

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  23. wave

    wave Forum Resident

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  24. Sean Keane

    Sean Keane Pre-Mono record collector In Memoriam Thread Starter

    I can't see even Capitol releasing a fancy pressing like this with a Bob Norberg digital transfer. I could be wrong, though - they did put out those digital Sinatra vinyls in the eighties, but weren't they made from a tape where the digital was then fixed for an LP transfer?
     
  25. mbleicher1

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