It's a weird one; recordings on the archive have a different and longer setlist than the one given on Dead.net and other setlist sites like this: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~./gdead/dead-sets/73/12-6-73.txt I never noticed this before, I've just heard circulating versions, but did they play Weather Report Suite?! If so, it seems like a long show...but WRS seems to be missing from circulating sources, if it was in fact played. Does anyone know the deal with this?
I hear where you are coming from and felt the same way to me initially, but it grew on me pretty quickly. I think you have to go to it more than it goes to you. Remember that Winterland box was Plangented so maybe that makes it feel a tad more unnatural by comparison with the little more normal '73 tape wobble!
So, Days Between has been catching my ear recently. Anyone got any thoughts on this song? So strange and dark and psychedelic sounding. Cool song, imo.
You're talking about a top 5, you've just named 5. My 'top 5' has more than 5 on it for sure, (in accordance with principles well established on this thread,) but the only one from 1973 is 12-6. (maybe 3-24 gets on the second team.) In some Dark Stars they are on a course for orbit in a distant star system. In others they are pinging haphazardly around the galaxy, maybe finding a wormhole or three. IMO 1973 has more of the former, whereas the latter is my preference.
You should see the Long Strange Trip film. The entire last segment (~1 hr) is kind of built around that tune, the last Garcia-Hunter masterpiece. It's too late now, but it was a typical story of GD missed opportunities that they weren't able to put together a last album sometime in 93-95. Even if they had carefully selected live performances, brushed them up in the studio (if even possible, don't know what's on multitrack) etc. There's an album's worth of material with a couple of gems, and it probably would have been a massive success with the GD at the height of their popularity.
Like you, I would have said this about 8 months ago. Hammering the 4/24/72 Dark Star has flipped that in no uncertain terms; as great as the 4/8/72 version is, 4/24/72 reigns supreme in my domicile. But they're close.
I suspect thatx by ‘93, the Dead, off the road for a lengthy period and in the studio, would have made for recorded material exceedig the quality of the live performances. Maturity, perhaps more patience, a healthier environment, certainly for Jerry, all could have meant they could focus on making a serious album. If only. Also, in relation to Long Strange Trip, is it really going to remain as an Amazon streaming thing forever? I’d really like to see but can hardly figure out streaming and am not even sure I could access it from Australia. ...until you spend a week solid on 8 April and change your mind...!
I did a free trial on amazon prime just for the docu. Connected the laptop via hdmi to the receiver and I was good to go
This morning I listened to the original mix of Live/Dead "Dark Star" for the first time. I absolutely loved it, but then again, that's the way I feel about the three official mixes, mainly because it's one of my favorite performances of "Dark Star" ever. It's very interesting to listen to the different approaches producers have taken.
Thanks for pointing me in that direction. I have moved the discussion to a more relevant thread: The Plangent Process
The complete Blu-ray Fare Thee Well is the dead.net deal of the day - what are the thoughts about the set? Enjoyable? Awful? I’m a bit of a completist, so I may jump at the discounted price, but wanted to see if there was a consensus about it.
In regards to 6 December 1973- Cleveland. Here is the setlist via Dealists.com: Cleveland Public Hall Location Cleveland, OH Date 12/6/73 - Thursday One: Bertha ; Mexicali Blues ; Loser ; Black Throated Wind ; They Love Each Other ; Beat It On Down The Line ; Deal ; El Paso ; Row Jimmy ; Greatest Story Ever Told ; China Cat Sunflower [9:15] > I Know You Rider ; Around And Around Two: Ramble On Rose ; Me And My Uncle ; Here Comes Sunshine ; Big River ; Dark Star [43:27] > Eyes Of The World [13:57] > Stella Blue [9:21] ; Sugar Magnolia [9:33] Comments: Show [3:05:00] Information based on vault tape. {Dark Star 0:00 > First Verse 24:45 to 26:00 > end 43:05}. Here is the setlist from SHNID 132361, Master Reel > DAT, via CM: --Set 1-- 101-d1t01 - Bertha 102-d1t02 - Mexicali Blues 103-d1t03 - Loser 104-d1t04 - Black Throated Wind 105-d1t05 - They Love Each Other 106-d1t06 - Beat It On Down the Line 107-d1t07 - Deal 108-d1t08 - El Paso 109-d1t09 - Row Jimmy 110-d1t10 - Greatest Story Ever Told 111-d2t01 - China Cat Sunflower -> 112-d2t02 - I Know You Rider 113-d2t03 - Around & Around --Set 2-- 201-d2t04 - Ramble On Rose 202-d2t05 - Me & My Uncle 203-d2t06 - Here Comes Sunshine 204-d2t07 - Big River 205-d3t01 - Dark Star -> 206-d3t02 - Eyes of the World -> 207-d3t03 - Stella Blue 208-d3t04 - Sugar Magnolia A 3-hour show with a 43:05 Dark Star. All is well in the Universe.
As I recall there was a fake 12-6-73 setlist sourced from mislabeled tapes or sketchy memories from people who were there before the complete tape surfaced in the early 00's.
I have it on my GD hard drive but not sure that I've listened to it yet. Need to fix that soon, 1973 is my favorite year!
The 2001 version sounded odd to me at first because I'd played the original so much (first on cassette and then on CD; I never had the vinyl). I haven't played them together in a long time so I can't objectively compare them right now, but the original will always be a dear old friend.
This morning -- Disc 1 of "So Many Roads" box. What an incredible achievement this box is (IMHO). Boiling the Dead down into 5 discs -- let alone 5 mostly live discs -- is an impossible task. But my lord is this box a resounding success or what! From the Dark Star>China (killer version!) > The Eleven, to the Watkin's Jam, to an almost entire disc of new recordings. Hot damn this is some essential Dead.
Finally pulled the trigger on "Road Trips Vol 1. #1" (Fall 1979) Haven't heard much from this tour but I'm excited to take a listen. I figured it would be worth grabbing while still available on dead.net Now let's see if it comes with that Bonus Disc you guys have been talking up.....what do you think my chances are?
8 December 1973- Cameron Indoor Stadium, Duke University. Always a good show at Cameron. Getting a head start of this one today, may go through it twice, because it's the Grateful Dead.