The Grateful Thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by JRM, Apr 11, 2014.

  1. KeninDC

    KeninDC Forum Resident

    Virginia, USA
    Love the song. Please suggest some good shows with some excellent "West L.A. Fadeaway" excursions. At your leisure.
  2. GuidedByJonO)))

    GuidedByJonO))) Forum Resident

    Oh man, only a couple come immediately to mind, I'm sure others could chime in with theirs. The best I've ever heard is from Alpine Valley '89, Jerry just destroys that one. There's also one, from 1988 I believe, with Clarence Clemons that I always liked.

    EDIT: It was 07/19/89, for the record. One of the few times Heady Version is absolutely on the money with a best version!
  3. KeninDC

    KeninDC Forum Resident

    Virginia, USA
    Thanks. I sorta put you on the spot. Just looking for a few shows as a way to start exploring other years. My wife always sings "West L.A. Freeway" because she knows it will bug me.
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  4. Jman92

    Jman92 Forum Resident

    This has always been my favorite China Doll by far. I LOVE the lick that Jerry plays with for about a minute as the song winds itself down. The first time I heard it I must have replayed it about 10 times....It's really beautiful. I've never heard that lick appear in any other version of China Doll but it's a PERFECT outro.
    And like you said the little jam with Brent and the drummers is really nice!! :goodie:
  5. jazz_case

    jazz_case Forum Resident

    The MSG Rainforest benefit gig features an interesting one with none other than Mick Taylor getting some neck as they say.

    P.S. Mick, if you're out there - how about a club tour for old times sake?
  6. hyde park

    hyde park Forum Resident

    Flossmoor, IL, USA
    Definitely would recommend 7/19/89, too (my first show) -- can be found on Downhill from Here DVD.
  7. Spadeygrove

    Spadeygrove Forum Resident

    Charleston, WV
  8. KeninDC

    KeninDC Forum Resident

    Virginia, USA
    Holy Cow. A Mick Taylor frolic and detour. I did not know he played/jammed with the Grateful Dead. Exactly why I love this thread and all its denizens.

    Listening to the July 19, 1989 Alpine Valley show. Hot show (cool "Westy" in the snapshot).

  9. hyde park

    hyde park Forum Resident

    Flossmoor, IL, USA
    Wet, wet weekend.
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  10. ThirdBowl

    ThirdBowl Have You Had Your Third Bowl Today?

    Santa Cruz, CA
    As I said, it was not a great show. It was fun to be there, on a big soccer field in the California sun. These shows were "day time" shows with 2pm start times! They probably took the stage around 2:30... and in any case both sets were played in full daylight. That in itself was fun and somewhat unusual. Good to get some context when listening back.

    I thought the 5/5 2nd set was solid, but again not a whole lot of X-factor. The 5/6 show on the other hand, totally ON from start to finish. From the Half-Step opener to the (This Could Be) The Last Time encore, nary a weak moment. Even Blow Away didn't disrupt the flow much, an abbreviated version with a hard stop that then "segued" right in to Terrapin.

    I: Mississippi Half-Step> Feel Like A Stranger, Easy To Love You, West L.A. Fadeaway, When I Paint My Masterpiece, Candyman, Victim Or The Crime> Foolish Heart
    II: Iko Iko, Samson & Delilah, The Weight, Blow Away, Terrapin Station> Drums> Space> The Other One> Standing On The Moon> Throwing Stones> Turn On Your Lovelight
    E: The Last Time
  11. ThirdBowl

    ThirdBowl Have You Had Your Third Bowl Today?

    Santa Cruz, CA
    Hmm, being dosed may explain the unfocused/disconnected playing on that first day. I could see that being the case. In a "best case" scenario that should have enhanced the performance, the whole group mind thing, or whatever. As it happened, if true, I think it just made Jerry more tentative/confused -- especially the Help>Slip transition... he almost botches the 3rd verse in Franklin's as well, but recovers in time to sing "If you get confused, listen to the music play" although even that line is sung rather unenthusiastically.

    He really shreds on the Queen Jane that follows though. Once he got over the hump so to speak he found the groove. As mentioned above, the next show is very strong, well worth a listen!
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  12. ThirdBowl

    ThirdBowl Have You Had Your Third Bowl Today?

    Santa Cruz, CA
    My kids are almost big enough to wear some of my old, now-too-small, t-shirts. Probably a few more years still but I'm saving some of the cooler concert T's for them. They won't be wearing some GAP retro/faded thing, they'll be wearing (if they so choose) old school original shirts. I have a huge t-shirt collection and even ones that are 20+ years old, in some cases, are still in really good shape.

    I was actually wearing MY Steels Wheels concert T the other day. Bought in the Oakland Coliseum parking lot in late '89... Ragged but Right!
  13. KeninDC

    KeninDC Forum Resident

    Virginia, USA
    My daughter has raided my old t-shirt drawer. She wears 'em big and is partial to my Camper Van Beethoven tees. This is my 2nd camper van picture post of the day (tee and a Westfalia above).

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  14. warewolf95

    warewolf95 Forum Resident

    I remember set 2 of 5/5 being enjoyable enough but thinking by then it was too late lol.
  15. JRM

    JRM Forum Resident Thread Starter

  16. kevin

    kevin Forum Resident

    Evanston IL
    I'm listening to 3/11/93[Rosemont Horizon]on the Grateful Dead Channel on SiriusXM[just finished the part with Ken Nordine guesting].
  17. davmar77

    davmar77 I'd rather be drummin'...

    clifton park,ny
    Pretty sure it was done on 5/2/70 too.
  18. tdcrjeff

    tdcrjeff Forum Resident

    Hermosa Beach, CA
    And 5/7/70. deadlists has pretty good documentation of the NRPS sets for 1970.
  19. posnera

    posnera Forum Resident

    Listening to RT 2.3 Wall Of Sound last night, strangely enough I hadn't really paid attention to this one. That was a mistake.

    I certainly understand some disappointment that these 2 shows were curated rather than released in full, but that doesn't change how great this set is.

    I've got a download of this, and there is some noise in the R channel mostly on disc 1. It sounds like it is coming from the keyboards. Is this a known flaw in the source or is my download messed up?

    Have these shows gotten a recent Miller upgrade? I'd definitely grab them if the sound is up to par.

    If for some unknown reason you haven't heard this yet, the WRS/Let It Grow is by far the best I've heard. The jam doesn't go to Dark Star like Dick's 12 (6/28/74) but it is a killer.

    Summer 74 box please!
  20. bmoregnr

    bmoregnr Forum Resident

    1060 W.Addison
    Distortion or buzzing in the Playing right? It is well known, it is not Ned, he listened and confirmed it as such NedBase: Annotated Nedbase 1970 - 1975 I recently came across in the Gear Book that at one time anyway they were using Countryman pickups in the piano which were known to act funny in humidity seemingly reacting in ways that may explain this. (the cite is around '71 so not really sure if they were still using in 6/74)
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  21. btbderek

    btbderek Forum Resident

    Bowling Green, Ky
    Just got on the bus here for good. I'm sure you guys get posts like these from time to time so I apologize in advanced, but there's so much material to seek out that I dont know where to start. Have been a casual fan of The Dead for a couple of years after picking up the debut album at the record store, ended up with the first three studio albums as I really dig their early sound. Would visit back and forth here and there, but recently gave Europe 72 and Skull & Roses some attention and it shook my whole world! The moment I heard Morning Dew from Europe 72 I knew it was a changing moment for me. I'm absolutely loving those two live albums along with the complete Beat Club recording/show. I have heard snippets of Live/Dead, but have to go back and listen in full now. Any suggestions where to go from here? Particularly interested in that pivotal point between Aoxomoxoa and Workingman's Dead/ American Beauty as I love their early sound but have really turned on to their stripped down sound as well. But looking for any thing suggested of any time period really, figured it might be helpful if I noted where I was so far in the search. Looking forward to hearing some long improvised jams, as that is something I came to love as a result of digging into Zeppelin's live shows. Thanks in advanced!

    P.s. Any suggestions that wouldn't cost an arm and a leg to acquire on Vinyl would be much appreciated as well!
  22. Kate_C.

    Kate_C. Forum Resident

  23. posnera

    posnera Forum Resident

    I initially assumed it was Ned, but a quick online search set the record straight. There are definitely strange un-Keith-like sounds coming from the keyboards on the 6/16/74 show.
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  24. Instant Dharma

    Instant Dharma Forum Resident

    East Bay, Ca
    Anthem of the Sun is pretty essential. There are so many things available from this period known as Primal Dead.
  25. Dahabenzapple

    Dahabenzapple Forum Resident

    Livingston NJ
    Dick's Picks 4 (2/13 & 2/14/70)
    Ladies & Gentlemen (April 71 Fillmore East)
    Europe 72 Volume 2
    Steppin’ Out (4 CD set from England 72)
    Movie Soundtrack from October 74
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