The Grateful Thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by JRM, Apr 11, 2014.

  1. Champagne Boot

    Champagne Boot The Passion of the Was

    Location:
    Chicago
    Relistening to 5/19/74 this afternoon, and my immediate impression is that this is a particularly good show for Keith and Donna. Keith's sound sparkles just a little more than usual. Donna is rock solid. Might be the mix and they're a bit more up-front than usual, but I'm really enjoying this.
     
  2. pbuzby

    pbuzby Forum Resident

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    Chicago, IL, US
    Offhand the only early 70's shows with multiple reel SBD masters I remember are the Fillmore East Feb 70 shows, and the shows they recorded multitrack for Skull, E72 and GD Movie. But I'd be glad to be surprised.
     
  3. ianuaditis

    ianuaditis Evil Twin

    Well, now I have to...plus, you have Good Lovin' all as one track, so its cool. (and of course I'm just being hyperbolic, I put the thing on, navigate to another window, and don't even notice the tracks.)
     
  4. budwhite

    budwhite Så länge skutan kan gå

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    It's easy to see why the band liked 89-90 so much. Just look at Jerry. He's sharp and looks very much alive!
     
  5. ianuaditis

    ianuaditis Evil Twin

    I don't think they did a good job with the track order, they should have kept all of 5-24 continuous.

    There's a radio program, Morning Dew, on WBAI in NYC that I used to tape back in school, and I remember hearing that as they broadcast it, and it was like 'ho-hum, here's Lovelight, the organ doesn't work,' and then they reeled off the rest of that set and I almost couldn't believe it (and I didn't know that they really didn't do anything like that all that much in 1969, that was more like an 80s set the way they mixed and matched the repertoire.) It's still my favorite St. Stephen ever, something about the way they start it from nothing.
     
  6. rbbert

    rbbert Forum Resident

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    Reno, NV, USA
    For sure 3/28/73, 6/22/73 and 4/2/73 had 2 sets of reel masters made, and I'd be very surprised if they were the only ones. Charlie Miller thinks there may well be 2 sets of masters for 5/19/74, which only makes sense if they are actually releasing it.
     
  7. Archtop

    Archtop Infinity goes up on trial!

    Location:
    Greater Boston
    I like this description very much. I'll modify Jerry's quote to say that when Phil's rubbery, the band is rubbery. For a really good example of what rubbery means (if'n y'don't know already, but you should), see 5/3/72, 2:10-3:39 of Good Lovin'. Rubbery Dead is the best sort of Dead.
     
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  8. US Blues

    US Blues Forum Resident

    That show needs an official release some day. The second set jam is the fraternal twin of the Aarhus show.
     
  9. dzhason

    dzhason Forum President

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    Earlier today I finally got around to putting on disc 2 of the last Dave’s and it got me thinking that I might need to re-evaluate the ‘71 bummer with which I had come out of last summer having.
     
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  10. Champagne Boot

    Champagne Boot The Passion of the Was

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    Chicago
    I'm all in on '71, which seems to be a minority opinion. Particularly the end of the year when they're breaking in Keith.

    Bonus hot take: I've never liked '72.
     
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  11. Crispy Rob

    Crispy Rob Cat Juggler

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    Ha, I used to tape that show on WBAI in NYC in high school as well. My only gripe is that they eventually sometimes started playing Blues Traveler shows instead of the GD, which was always a disappointment.
     
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  12. ianuaditis

    ianuaditis Evil Twin

    That is certainly a hot take.
     
  13. Champagne Boot

    Champagne Boot The Passion of the Was

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    Chicago
    There's nothing disappointing about a Blues Traveler show.
     
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  14. Dahabenzapple

    Dahabenzapple Forum Resident

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    AAAARrrrGGGhhhhh


    Hard time getting past don’t like 1972 Grateful Dead but DO like Blues Traveler

    Nothing personal

    Just sayin’
     
  15. Rne

    Rne Tangled up in blue

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    ...
     
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  16. ianuaditis

    ianuaditis Evil Twin

    I never heard any of that, though I've been working my way through a dozen or so unlabelled tapes, most of which are from BAI. (One was my little brothers' Everclear mix, not one of my tapes at all.) All of them I've heard are either GD or GD related (Garcia's side projects, there's a Ratdog show from 97, David Murray's Dark Star etc.)

    I wouldve been glad to hear some Blues Traveler, as long as it wasn't too frequent, as it would have meant I got to go out with my friends instead of spending Saturday night at home waiting to get the tape flip just right. In those days it was hard to find everyone once they were out, no one had cell phones yet. (I probably would've taped BT anyway, I just wouldn't have been too fussy about how it came out.)
     
  17. Crispy Rob

    Crispy Rob Cat Juggler

    Location:
    Oakland, CA
    Maybe I'm thinking of a different show. This would be early Friday morning from about 2:00-5:00 AM, so I'd have to set the alarm, and my listening days were circa '87-'92, although for the last several years only when I was back home from college. Definitely a local NYC station and I thought it was WBAI. I got my first copies of 5/8/77 and 5/9/77 from taping off of the show, among many other tapes, although I was able to upgrade almost all of them within the next few years. The heavy Blues Traveler airplay phase was around the time of their first two albums.
     
  18. ianuaditis

    ianuaditis Evil Twin

  19. scribbs

    scribbs Resident Mockery

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    US
    Yeah, The Other One is out of sight, as is the NFA, etc.
     
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  20. ianuaditis

    ianuaditis Evil Twin

    c. 94-98 or so when I stopped taping, Morning Dew was on from either 9PM-12 or 10-12. It was followed by an African-focused program that opened with Hendrix's "Machine Gun" which I know because i have it on so many tapes. It's moved around since, it could have been the later show earlier on, when I started listening was when the GD was at their highest popularity, so it'd make sense if it moved to prime time around that time.
     
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  21. pbuzby

    pbuzby Forum Resident

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    That's encouraging.
     
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  22. funknik

    funknik He who feels it.

    Location:
    Gorham, ME, USA
    I’m unsure what the exact nomenclature is for that little tease/jam, but I don’t remember hearing it much and I have listened to quite a few China Cat>Riders. I’ve never gotten good (or paid enough attention) at recognizing the the repeating instrumental themes.
     
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  23. Dahabenzapple

    Dahabenzapple Forum Resident

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    The Feelin’ Groovy Jam started appearing in the China>Rider transition on 3/17/73 and showed up until the last China>Rider before the hiatus played during the 5 night Winterland “Retirement” shows in October 74.
     
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  24. KCWhistle

    KCWhistle Forum Resident

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    Kansas City, MO
    Did it show up any earlier in a different context, like a "Dark Star" or something? I could swear I heard it recently in something from '71, '72, or '73 when I really wasn't expecting it. Was I smart enough to make a physical or digital note of it? NOPE. I WAS NOT.
     
  25. Dahabenzapple

    Dahabenzapple Forum Resident

    Location:
    Livingston NJ
    Yes - in many Dark Stars starting in November 69
     
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