The most intense placebo you ever experienced

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  1. A bottle of wine always fine tunes my system
     
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  2. Juan Matus

    Juan Matus Reformed Audiophile

    I am more prone to the nocebo effect. Watching House M.D. was always a fun experience.
     
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  3. Bingo Bongo

    Bingo Bongo Music gives me Eargasms

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    I once thought the CD was the cat’s meow~
     
  4. Colin M

    Colin M Forum Resident

    Yes I've CDs with green edges.
     
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  5. Drewan77

    Drewan77 Forum Resident

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    Many many years ago, I was convinced that R*ss And**ws mains purifiers would solve a problem I didn't know I had & couldn't even hear.

    The improvement in performance I noticed was in direct proportion to the amount I had spent. Very clever.
     
  6. Otlset

    Otlset It's always something.

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    Just the other day inspired by a thread on here I decided to swap out a set of my expensive interconnects with the stock red and white pair I had previously cast aside. By golly it sounded better in some ways, and I really enjoyed the sound of it! But the next day after thinking about this surprising result, I listened again and thought something was amiss, so I switched back and what an improvement!
     
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  7. Agitater

    Agitater Forum Resident

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    This tale has nothing to do with the placebo effect. The OP took the time and effort to dial in a sub using the controls provided. Real changes, including electronic and location adjustments too presumably, are real, not placebo.
     
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  8. Bananas&blow

    Bananas&blow It's just that demon life has got me in its sway

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    With or without speaker grills anyone?
     
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  9. Ntotrar

    Ntotrar Forum Resident

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    With. Little fingers live here.
     
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  10. Pinknik

    Pinknik Senior Member

    You missed the next to last sentence, it would seem.
     
  11. Tullman

    Tullman Senior Member

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    :laugh:
     
  12. G E

    G E Senior Member

    I strongly recommend experimentation with single malt scotch. Neat.
     
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  13. Ntotrar

    Ntotrar Forum Resident

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    To each thier Dulcinea...
     
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  14. PhilBiker

    PhilBiker sh.tv member number 666

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    My experience with cables is the same. I never got really expensive cables because I don't have really expensive gear, but I used to have a host of Audioquest and other brand name cables in my system. I sold all the ones I could recoup any money for and use decent but not expensive cables now.

    A bottle of wine is most definitely not a placebo! A glass of beer does the same thing for me. :)
     
  15. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Your host Your Host

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    The moderators have noticed that the OP is on a roll, first his "CABLE SCAM" thread was removed by the moderators, then his attempt to do it again, calling it a much more innocent "RCA INTERCONNECT CABLE COMPARISON" was not going his way, and now this thread, also in Audio Hardware, with an even more provoking title.

    The moderators look darkly on people who come here with one agenda. I'd branch out a bit if I were you.
     
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  16. Myke

    Myke Trying Not To Spook The Horse

    40 years ago...yes. :agree:
     
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  17. Agitater

    Agitater Forum Resident

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    Aaaaaaaargh! :agree:
     
  18. Agitater

    Agitater Forum Resident

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    Private board that's publicly accessible, and the board owner absolutely sets the rules. Then again, with 20 or more likes on the original post and plenty of likes for other similar and rationally expressed posts, it's always possible that a significant number of people who actually populate the board on a regular basis may be sending a positive message about particular subjects. It's a possible conclusion. Or not.
     
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  19. RingoStarr39

    RingoStarr39 Forum Resident

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    Beatles SHM-CD's......
     
  20. petertakov

    petertakov Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I have absolutely no agenda and I am just visiting this forum for fun and to find out about new releases. I don't think I have broken any rule with any of my posts but obviously that is not enough to stop the moderators doing as they wish. Luckily my life does not depend on their approval and I have no interest in being able to post here anyway if I am not allowed to write what I think. I am eastern-european and I have been warned and looked at way darker by people way scarier, although, surprisingly, on similar grounds :)))))
     
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  21. murphythecat

    murphythecat https://www.last.fm/user/murphythecat

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    op
    that story is very funny
    its not the first time Ive heard about engineer/recordings guy, tweaking with a eq a track for 20 minutes and make it sounds just right, just to realize the eq was bypass.

    in audio, the psychology is very serious. we are bias by what we see, how big the speakers are, our attachement to a certain designer or piece of gear/brand, ect.

    harman have shown that quite a bit convincingly.
    Audio Musings by Sean Olive: The Dishonesty of Sighted Listening Tests »
     
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  22. L.P.

    L.P. Forum Resident

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    You are off topic, this is about the placebo effect. What you describe is the nocebo effect! ;)
     
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  23. L.P.

    L.P. Forum Resident

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    Ok, this really is called the nocebo effect!
     
  24. Ham Sandwich

    Ham Sandwich Senior Member

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    It's all obvious now. It wasn't at the time. I had convinced myself that MP3 and CD were audibly transparent. With my gear and ears at the time, they were. I've since gotten better gear and have learned how to use my ears. I view that experience as an occupational hazard of being an engineer and initially viewing audio quality as an engineering problem. I've since learned the errors of my past ways.

    (my off topicness is due to giving the opposite type of placebo change than the OP intended, and that was intentional) ;)
     
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  25. David756

    David756 Active Member

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    MP3 sucks, that is not in dispute in my mind, but a couple of other lossy algorithms, the experience was the other way around for me.
     
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