It's always possible that they really do like those albums. Not every metal head has a visceral hatred for alt/nu metal or metalcore.
Yeah, true. I don't hate nu metal or metalcore at all but I do admit to being more of a traditionalist. I'd rather see High On Fire get a mention than SoaD or Avenge Sevenfold but that's me.
The bands Curveboy listed are Metal, IMO. Saying different is revisionism. Sure they are not as heavy as Slayer, Emperor or Carcass but they are still in the heavy metal family. Hard rock to me is Bryan Adams, Foreigner etc. The bands Curveboy listed were called metal in their respected timeline. In 78 or thereabouts Paul Stanley during an interview stated "we are a heavy metal band".
Avenged Sevenfold's at the top of the charts. High On Fire isn't. Any underground band can use a boost. Plus I prefer doom/stoner/drone/sludge...
Reading these 'best of' lists I busted out the S/T Korn album on my walk today. It does have some very cool metal groove moments and really raised my blood pressure but in the end, it's nu-metal and I'll always have a hard time getting past that.
That Rolling Stone list ignores a lot of the great and classic European Power Metal albums (and American Power Metal albums.) None of the early Helloween, Blind Guardian or Rhapsody of Fire albums? No Iced Earth, Jag Panzer or Helstar? Also, notice they ignore some of the great thrash bands outside of the commercial Big 4 successes, such as Overkill and Testament. I can argue that some of their albums are better than some of the thrash albums listed by Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer and Anthrax.
I can live with that list. Obviously people are going to argue the semantics and placement of their fave albums, and on those types of lists newer stuff always makes an appearance before a place in history is established. But a lot of the right stuff is in there somewhere. Ehhh, Metal Health is a hard rock album. Or a Slade cover album. But not really a metal album. Falls more akin to AC/DC than Iron Maiden. Has the definition of metal evolved since the 80s? Certainly. Was Bon Jovi ever metal? Nope. Rock. Hard rock. Pop (their biggest songs were Desmond Child power ballads and had videos with lots of saucy hair-teased close ups) so maybe even a boy band. But not metal.
See original post - RS explains why they excluded certain obvious/debatable choices, problem is they also included Twisted Sister "Stay Hungry" in their list .
Always a little disappointing to me when it's all famous albums, with no obscure ones for me to go hunt down. Same story here:
Hard Rock was more like Styx, Rush, Boston, The Who, early Whitesnake, the Cult, Deep Purple, Zeppelin, Van Halen (etc). Pop/glam/hair metal bands like Kiss, Ratt, Twisted Sister, etc. were/are clearly different and considered, well, metal. I don't know how anyone can call Metal Health not a metal album- it's the quintessential metal album.
for real. listen to this song. anyone in this thread. then find me a more metal song than this by kiss and i'll admit i was wrong
It's like the "hair" metal discussion,( that term should be banned from existence) if you like it, it's metal if you don"t... you get the idea. I always found it funny how people like to change history.
As for lists, you almost never have obscure bands/ albums. People only want popular stuff unfortunately.
Pretty much, the entire genre and I'm lumping hard rock in there is so fragmented with categories and (sub) categories that the arguments become circular.
HATE UNHOLY YOUNG AND WASTED CREATURES ALBUM PARASITE ..... This In Living Color song is the type of metal I hate. Can't get past his vocal delivery. And I love DEath/Black/Thrash metal. Go figure.
