I'm sure this has been posted before, but I didn't know that Watchtower had recorded anything after 1989. We opened up for these guys a long time ago. Wow! This is better than anything they did in the '80s!
Love Watchtower: Concepts of Math, a mathematical puzzle of progressive metal. I believe it's a collection of previously released singles along with one new song. Short at 29 minutes I hope someday they will get their sh!t together and release another album.
Any Top-10 list of metal albums without Master of Puppets on it is like having a Beatles' discography without Abbey Road in it.
I bet you and I could easily come up with a respectable Top 10 List of metal albums without Puppets: Justice - Metallica Rust - Megadeth Number - Maiden Sound or Leprosy (depends on which version you like) - Death Painkiller - Priest Them - King Oath - Mercyful Vulgar or Driven - Pantera Rising - Rainbow Diver - Dio South or Reign or Seasons (they're all the same to me as I'm not a huge fan, but others have a very definite preference) - Slayer First 4 Sabbath album And I'm sure I'm missing more essential top 10 caliber albums, but that's enough to work with for now I think
I bet anybody could, but that doesn't mean it holds water to taste. Plus, you just listed more than 10.
Right - I'm arguing we could pick 10 albums from those listed and come up with a respectable list that doesn't need Puppets to be valid.
And my point was, leaving off Puppets as a milestone in metal that it was (and to a large extent, still is) is near blasphemous for any Top-10 metal list. It doesn't matter, though, because it's all opinion, and opinions are fairly cool to have. Like, I'm sure my Top-10 all-time metal list would be different from anybody else's. In fact, maybe I should think of one off the cuff. Metallica - Master of Puppets Slayer - Reign in Blood Anthrax - Among the Living Voivod - Dimension Hatross Fates Warning - No Exit King Diamond - Them Testament - The New Order Megadeth - Peace Sells...But Who's Buying Iron Maiden - Seventh Son... Death Angel - The Ultra-Violence See, not duplicating bands, and chossing only those that I purchased when they came out, having a profound effect on me.
Will agree to disagree. "Puppets" is a great album, but not without its flaws in my eyes. "Thing ..." is just a boring, plodding song, and I hold "Justice" in a much higher regard. If that's blasphemous, then so be it.
If leaving off a milestone album like Master is near blasphemous, then how is it justifiable to leave off similar milestones from outside 86-88?
@dmiller458 Haha! I wasn't dodging the question. I merely thought that my previous answers were sufficient. The point is, I have an opinion that claims that Master of Puppets is necessary for a Top-10 list, but, based upon personal opinion if it's not, well, that's okay, too, meaning that "blasphemous" is pretty tongue-in-cheek. That my personal list turned out the way it did was pretty much coincidence by not wanting to repeat the same band twice. I didn't mean for it to be in the 1986-1988 time period, so perhaps that a reflection upon me and my influences, at the time, opposed to anything else, other than, again, not naming the same band twice. To that end, it's obvious that the links you posted are opinions from those guys, as well, but because they are famous it holds more weight for some reason. Regardless, if I had told myself that I could repeat the same bands, my list would have covered a larger period of time. Nevertheless, it shows that I was shaped by a certain period, as assuredly we all are, yet our opinions could be dependent on when we actually heard an album, as opposed to when it was released. In the spirit of full disclosure, though, I quit buying metal albums around 1991-92. I've heard a few since then, of course, but the landscape changed not to my liking. Therefore, my knowledge of metal is from about 1970-1992. I'm limited. Sure, there are a few bands that I followed after that, but for some reason it was never quite the same. 1992 happens to be the year I graduated high school and started to make some real money. Maybe I no longer had a reason to be angry, so I began listening to a lot of Prince and started to get laid. Haha!