The Police on CD

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by street legal, Oct 24, 2005.

  1. fredhammersmith

    fredhammersmith Forum Resident

    Location:
    Montreal, Quebec
    Does your ID of it as a remaster is based on the peak levels?
    The packaging looks very cheap to me, like many other Canadian early-80's pressings... and no words about any remastering anywhere on the sleeve...
    Pics of the booklet and the back here...

    (and if you are right, I'll start my quest for the AM+...:righton:)

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  2. HiFi Guy 008

    HiFi Guy 008 Forum Resident

    Location:
    New England
    I have an early A&M of Ghost In The Machine.
    Cat #: CD 3730 DIDX 2
    Matrix: DIDX 2 101A1
    Plastic hub: Made in USA Digital Audio Disc Corp

    Has anyone noticed that the vocals on "Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic" are, on this disc, very odd? They seem to be pushed much further back. Or is this the way it sounds on all versions? Don't remember my vinyl copy sounding like that at all.
     
  3. Drexler_McStyles

    Drexler_McStyles Active Member

    Location:
    Cackalack Country
    Do the early Japanese and W. German discs of Synchronicity have Murder by Numbers added or no?
     
  4. The advice I give everyone is to look for the discs issued
    BEFORE 'Message In A Box' as they seem the least dickered-with.
     
  5. KeithH

    KeithH Success With Honor...then and now

    Location:
    Beaver Stadium
    All versions of Synchronicity have "Murder by Numbers" except for the first pressing of the first Japanese issue with catalog number 38XB-2. This is the disc with a partial black coating. The second pressing with catalog number 38XB-2 looks very similar to the original U.S. issue (black text and no color coating) and has "Murder by Numbers".
     
  6. KeithH

    KeithH Success With Honor...then and now

    Location:
    Beaver Stadium

    That looks like a later issue by virtue of the "add" logo in place of the AM+ logo. Earlier Canadian issues likely had the AM+ logo.

    Also, I see that one page of the booklet has the "Police badge". I first saw that logo with the release of the box set in '93. That could indicate that your disc is the '93 remaster.
     
  7. Keith, that's a typo yes? You have 38XB-2 for both 1st and 2nd pressings.

    -s1m0n-
     
  8. Andrew T.

    Andrew T. Out of the Vein

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    ....
    I doubt it: My copy is an '80s CD-4792 issue (with the "AM+" logo on back where the "aad" would otherwise be), and the "Police badge" is present and accounted for; albeit in color. The images on both sides of the inner booklet fold, incidentally, hail from the LP inner sleeve.
     

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  9. ricks

    ricks Senior Member

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    127.0.0.1:443
    My original (1986/1987) early DADC US for US, has the "badge" in color as well.

    rick
     
  10. C6H12O6

    C6H12O6 Senior Member

    Location:
    My lab
    I compared the Mofi Synchronicity to the Dave Collins Every Breath You Take which should match the box set.

    FWIW, the volume on the Mofi was 70% of the Collins CD. After matching those levels the Collins CD appears to be brighter but not to a horrible degree. We're talking about 2 db at 10 k. Not thrilled about that but hardly criminal.
     
  11. fredhammersmith

    fredhammersmith Forum Resident

    Location:
    Montreal, Quebec
    Andrew, do you know the peak levels of your pressing?
     
  12. Andrew T.

    Andrew T. Out of the Vein

    Location:
    ....
    The levels on my copy are identical to rick's:

    1. 99.8%
    2. 97.5%
    3. 100.0%
    4. 100.0%
    5. 100.0%
    6. 100.0%
    7. 100.0%
    8. 88.7%
    9. 97.1%
    10. 88.4%
    11. 82.5%

    It's an early U.S. Denon pressing, allegedly "made from a Japan laser mastering." :)
     
  13. KeithH

    KeithH Success With Honor...then and now

    Location:
    Beaver Stadium
    I missed the badge logo on my earlier pressings. Oops.
     
  14. KeithH

    KeithH Success With Honor...then and now

    Location:
    Beaver Stadium
    No, not a typo. There are two distinct pressings with catalog number 38XB-2. The first has a partial black coating and 10 tracks, and is thus missing "Murder by Numbers". The second looks very similar to the original U.S. issue and has 11 tracks, and thus has "Murder by Numbers". Details can be found here:

    http://www.keithhirsch.com/two-vari...lice-synchronicity-with-catalog-number-38xb-2

    I generally consider the two pressings with catalog number 38XB-2 first issues since they both have the original catalog number. Also, I suspect that the second pressing replaced the first pressing very quickly, probably in 1984, and possibly even in 1983. The D32Y disc would then be the second Japanese issue, from 1986. Certainly one could refer to the second 38XB-2 pressing as the second issue and the D32Y disc as the third. There are no hard and fast rules here. :)
     
  15. Downsampled

    Downsampled Senior Member

    Just how rare is that first press of Synchronicity, without "Murder By Numbers"? I really want one! Poking around eBay and the Internet in general, I could find almost no evidence of it.
     
  16. Dam

    Dam Forum Resident

    Location:
    Australia
    Can someone please post the peak levels for either of the Japanese 38XB's for comparison?
     
  17. Dam

    Dam Forum Resident

    Location:
    Australia
    Can someone please post the peak levels for either of the Japanese 38XB's for comparison?
     
  18. Dam

    Dam Forum Resident

    Location:
    Australia
    Sorry for the dual post.
     
  19. I'm gonna resurrect this thread (as it were) since I was lucky enough to recently acquire a couple of these early very rare Japan-made 24k gold Police CDs. I have "Ghost" and "Zenyatta". In a preliminary "shoot-out", it seems the EAC peak levels of my gold Ghost D33Y-3404 and my early CD-3730 DIDY Ghost are quite different:

    D33Y-3404:

    Track 1
    Peak level 87.0 %
    Track 2
    Peak level 81.2 %
    Track 3
    Peak level 83.1 %
    Track 4
    Peak level 83.1 %
    Track 5
    Peak level 81.2 %
    Track 6
    Peak level 83.1 %
    Track 7
    Peak level 83.1 %
    Track 8
    Peak level 72.4 %
    Track 9
    Peak level 83.3 %
    Track 10
    Peak level 91.2 %
    Track 11
    Peak level 83.5 %


    CD-3730 DIDY:

    Track 1
    Peak level 95.3 %
    Track 2
    Peak level 95.3 %
    Track 3
    Peak level 95.3 %
    Track 4
    Peak level 95.3 %
    Track 5
    Peak level 95.3 %
    Track 6
    Peak level 95.3 %
    Track 7
    Peak level 95.3 %
    Track 8
    Peak level 95.3 %
    Track 9
    Peak level 95.3 %
    Track 10
    Peak level 95.3 %
    Track 11
    Peak level 95.3 %


    I'm a little dubious of those results seeing as the peak is the same for all tracks on the CD-3730 version (I'm using the latest EAC with AccurateRip).

    If someone who has the Japan-for-Japan 1st pressing could post their peaks, please do, it would be good to see if the 24k gold version is unique.

    -s1m0n-
     
  20. drbryant

    drbryant Senior Member

    Location:
    Los Angeles, CA
    I don't think that there's anything wrong with your results. The peaks are the same, because that's where they clipped off the tops.

    I don't have the Japanese 1st pressing of Ghosts, but I do have the D32Y (3200 Yen) A&M pressing, which I have always thought sounds amazing. I'll try to do this in the next couple of days.

    Those D33 gold Police pressings are rare. I saw Synchronicity the other day, but it was about $55, and I passed since I have the 38XB-2 and the MFSL.
     
  21. Here are the peak levels from my WG for USA version
    CD-3730 (393 730-2 01 in the matrix)
    solid aluminum to the spindle hole
    smooth-sided case

    EAC Auslese-Logdatei vom 29. April 2008, 21:13 für CD
    Police / Ghost In The Machine

    Track 1
    Spitzenpegel 100.0 %
    Kopie CRC 51B82459

    Track 2
    Spitzenpegel 100.0 %
    Kopie CRC EFB710B0

    Track 3
    Spitzenpegel 100.0 %
    Kopie CRC 2A60AC2C

    Track 4
    Spitzenpegel 100.0 %
    Kopie CRC 88BF3014

    Track 5
    Spitzenpegel 100.0 %
    Kopie CRC 75D45C84

    Track 6
    Spitzenpegel 100.0 %
    Kopie CRC CDCFEC41

    Track 7
    Spitzenpegel 100.0 %
    Kopie CRC C335F470

    Track 8
    Spitzenpegel 83.1 %
    Kopie CRC 951588AF

    Track 9
    Spitzenpegel 89.2 %
    Kopie CRC C6EFF0EC

    Track 10
    Spitzenpegel 100.0 %
    Kopie CRC 7C6C6120

    Track 11
    Spitzenpegel 91.5 %
    Kopie CRC 3ADF2185
     
  22. curbach

    curbach Some guy on the internet

    Location:
    The ATX
    These numbers look suspiciously similar to the numbers posted earlier in the thread by fredhammersmith. Looks like they are from the 1993 remaster.
     
  23. fredhammersmith

    fredhammersmith Forum Resident

    Location:
    Montreal, Quebec
    Mine were from Regatta de Blanc though.
     
  24. curbach

    curbach Some guy on the internet

    Location:
    The ATX
    Yes, but I'm guessing the identical peak levels on every track are a common feature of the remasters.
     
  25. fredhammersmith

    fredhammersmith Forum Resident

    Location:
    Montreal, Quebec
    Not the sign of a great remastering job isn't it?
    I've got to find AM+ masterings!
     

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