The return of vinyl - Newsnight

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  1. richbdd01

    richbdd01 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Dear oh dear, just watched this on YouTube. Clueless doesn’t even come close...especially the bit about ‘I like to have the top and bottom of the frequency range’. :p I actually found much of this quite amusing....

     
  2. Manimal

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    Johnny Sharp or whatever his name was (in blue) seemed like a clueless naysayer. Say whatever you want about vinyl but dull and muffled is not legit. The other two were with it for the most part ( frequencies?) and probably more so than they wanted to admit. IMHO:)
     
  3. Gaslight

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    Dude from Hot Chip.
     
  4. LitHum05

    LitHum05 El Disco es Cultura

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  5. Richard Austen

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    There is no treble or bass loss - provided you have very good turntable/arm and cartridge. Unfortunately, most people had crappy 1980s rubbish tables and yes those were horrid. $15 cartridges that were on their 8,000th hour when they're good for 400 hours kind of destroys the highs and lows and sound muffled. LOL.
     
  6. vinylkid58

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    Which is why (IMHO) most people gave up their vinyl for the brand new CD format. And the convenience factor as well.

    jeff
     
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  7. Richard Austen

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    I did the same thing - then I auditioned a Voyd Reference turntable with quality arm and cartridge and that sinking feeling of why did I throw away my records - and worse my parents records filled with original Beatles and Elvis Presley albums. Oops. That along with having my bike spokes filled with rookie and early Gretsky hockey cards that go for a bomb each - shudder :oops::rolleyes::mudscrying:
     
  8. richbdd01

    richbdd01 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I think the thing that makes me laugh is that it’s completely the opposite of my experience. I feel that cd’s had a much poorer bass response in comparison to vinyl.

    The thing is that unless you have a decent turntable, phono stage and cart then you’re not in a position to make a judgement on what is better? Johnny Sharp obviously had quite a relatively poor sounding setup and it would be understandable that you would prefer cd, as it WILL usually sound clearer than a really basic, budget turntable setup.
     
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  9. Richard Austen

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    And to be fair to CD - it was new in the 1980s and most of the machines stunk and most of the recordings were just copied over. SO here you have turntables with 40 years of improvements and the first bunch of CD kind of sucked. Fast forward to today and CD can be very good indeed. And the players (some of them) will trounce a lot of turntables. It still mainly comes down to the recording though - a great recording on either format beats a weak recording on the opposing format.

    CD also doesn't have the defects that vinyl has. I want to buy several analog planet LPs but they are very expensive and it makes me not want to wade into them for the disappointment and hassle if they suck. This doesn't happen with CD.
     
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  10. Catcher10

    Catcher10 I like records, and Prog...duh

    They are on the internet so it must be true........
     
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  11. Gaslight

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    The same could be said for this forum.
     
  12. norliss

    norliss Forum Resident

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    I remember watching this when it was broadcast, a good 18 months ago (or so). How come it's being posted now?
     
  13. richbdd01

    richbdd01 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Cos im doing it JUST to annoy you :)
     
  14. norliss

    norliss Forum Resident

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    Doesn't annoy me, old boy. I just wondered if the timing of it had any significance. Perhaps not...
     
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  15. Gaslight

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    The forum clocks run slowly.

    Rap and Madonna are still fairly new, for example.
     
  16. JRob1125

    JRob1125 Well-Known Member

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    Crazy how most people have never heard how vinyl is supposed to sound. Even a cheap catridge with a .4 x .7 elliptical would shock the average person.
     
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