The Van der Graaf Generator & Peter Hammill news thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by DesertChaos, Jul 31, 2014.

  1. DesertChaos

    DesertChaos Forum Resident Thread Starter

    New blog post today from Peter:

    New solo album finished, release tbd:
    Live VdGG album from last years short bit of touring:
    Personally I'm a lot more interested in the new solo studio album as for me the 3 piece VdGG is missing a little something. I'll buy the live disc too though as they were doing some different things last year, like the entire Lighthouse Keepers piece.
     
  2. bRETT

    bRETT Senior Member

    Location:
    Boston MA
    Glad PH and VDG are keeping on. I look forward most to the next band album, which I'm sure they'll only do when the time is right.
     
  3. CrimsonPiper

    CrimsonPiper Forum Resident

    Location:
    Los Angeles
    I think the little something you are missing is David Jackson... :)
     
  4. quicksrt

    quicksrt Senior Member

    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Peter or Van Der Graff have not played on the west coast in decades. They have performed a little bit on the east coast but nothing on my side of the hill.

    Hammill is one artist I must see before time runs out. And I really would have preferred he not be 75 years old.
     
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  5. Music Geek

    Music Geek Confusion will be my epitaph

    Location:
    Italy
    Four live albums in 8 years is a bit too much perhaps...
     
  6. jcarr73729

    jcarr73729 Forum Resident

    Location:
    UK
    I've seen the trio twice. The first, a few years back in Liverpool, took a while to get going, and I felt that something was missing too, but the most recent concert in Manchester at the RNCM was excellent. I hope some of that performance makes the cut, especially 'Plague'.

    If they do intend to beef-up the live VDGG sound with another member, I would prefer they try something entirely different, and not try to replicate DJ. Maybe they would consider an effects-laden guitarist (e.g. Fripp or the like), bring back a violinist, reeds such as Theo Travis. A forceful and inventive personality, who would bring new arrangements and sounds to the established back catalogue.
     
  7. DesertChaos

    DesertChaos Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Decades? Peter played solo in fall 2008...saw him in Phoenix (he also hit SF that tour). VdGG, well you have a point - I don't think they've ever hit the west coast? Still, 2008 was a little while ago and I think he's due for some shows over this way....perhaps the new album will bring that on.
     
  8. quicksrt

    quicksrt Senior Member

    Location:
    Los Angeles
    I never heard about 2008 shows. I wonder why not LA? He would have sold out a nice small venue.
     
  9. TomM

    TomM Forum Resident

    Since Jackson is not likely to ever return because of his Tonewall and Playing the History projects, if there is to be a 4th member, I vote for Adrian Belew.
     
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  10. R. Totale

    R. Totale The Voice of Reason

    I vote for never a fourth member, but I don't get a vote. Those in VDGG decide what is or is not VDGG.

    I don't buy them all, though I'll always buy a studio project. But I can see the point that there are those who will, and (for VDGG) better revenue-producing approved releases that phone-recorded torrents cheaply pressed onto CD.
     
  11. ArpMoog

    ArpMoog Forum Resident

    Location:
    Detroit
    Sadly He will probably never play Detroit again. It was insulting how few people showed up for the gig.
    Are so called hipster IN if you will rag Metro Times could not even bother to do a piece on this Legend
    when he came to town. I can't think of another artist outside of Bowie that has such a brilliant run of albums.
    I may have mentioned this in another thread before if so Sorry but It just really pissed me off.
    I really love the mans music.
    A quality vinyl box set done like the Beatles mono covering Fools mate through sitting targets would bring me great joy.
     
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  12. DesertChaos

    DesertChaos Forum Resident Thread Starter

    No update on Peter's site (yet) but several european shops have listings for the new solo album "...All That Might Have Been..." coming November 28 in 3 formats - single CD, a 3 CD version, and vinyl. Since word of the album seems to have leaked out I suspect more info will be coming very soon now.
     
  13. DesertChaos

    DesertChaos Forum Resident Thread Starter

  14. The Deacon

    The Deacon Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Canada
    jESUS, no!
     
  15. jcarr73729

    jcarr73729 Forum Resident

    Location:
    UK
    PH has announced his next release:
    http://sofasound.com/latest.htm

    November is almost upon us. As well as my Mexico City "Otherworld" show with Gary Lucas I'll also be back in Tokyo for another four shows at the end of month. Details, of course, are up at touring.

    More importantly, the fruit of my recording labours over the last months is also going to be released at the end of November.

    The title is "..all that might have been..." and it comes in a number of different formats.

    The main release is a single CD, in the same form of packaging as was used for "Consequences". The music is presented here in continuous form and is cinematic by design. As in a film, scenes move backward and forward in time and space and characters appear and disappear without much by way of explanation. The scenes have been formed by slashing apart the forms of the original songs with which I started the project and reassembling them into this new form. It's *not* music looking for an imaginary film, but more like a combination of screenplay and music at the same time. To the best of my knowledge no-one has attempted such a project before.

    A special edition 3-CD box set is also available. This contains the main, cinematic, CD as well as one in which the individual songs are presented in more conventional fashion. The third CD is a stripped down instrumental collage.

    A vinyl release presents the songs in a different order and in a slightly edited form.

    The download versions of the release will be the songs, rather than the cinematic version.

    We are now taking orders for the Cd and the 3-cd box set, at the orders page (a little way down it, at the end of the PH section!). These days we're simply not geared up to deal with the specifics of vinyl shipping and so have decided to pass on that aspect of the release to Burning Shed, who really are experts at this particular format. You can find them here.

    I'll probably write more about how this has all come about and, indeed, the nature of the beast, closer to thactual release date. But for now it's enough to know that, at long last, the music is fully on schedule.
     
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  16. nsmith1002

    nsmith1002 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Monticello, IN USA
    I've ordered the 3cd box and the vinyl edition.

    Anticipation level: HIGH

    But with a slight caveat - I found Consequences to be a tough nut to crack.
    Several listens after its release and I still don't quite get it.
    For me it's the most unsatisfying Hammill release in quite a long time.
     
  17. DesertChaos

    DesertChaos Forum Resident Thread Starter

    And some details (and pre-order, Feb 2 release date) on the live VdGG release "Merlin Atmos":
    http://www.burningshed.com/store/peterhammill/collection/383/

    Single CD - Featuring VDGG's definitive epic A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers and Peter Hammill's equally ambitious side long piece Flight, Merlin Atmos is arguably the best live album in the history of this legendary band.

    Limited 2CD - this strictly limited edition double cd digipak version features a 70 minute bonus CD also recorded on the band's 2013 European tour (including classics such as Scorched Earth, Man-Erg and Meurglys III).

    CD 1:
    1. Flight
    2. Lifetime
    3. All That Before
    4. Bunsho
    5. A Plague Of Lighthouse Keeper
    6. Gog

    CD 2:
    1. Interference Patterns
    2. Over The Hill
    3. Your Time Starts Now
    4. Scorched Earth
    5. Meurglys III, The Songwriter's Guild
    6. Man-Erg
    7. Childlike Faith In Childhood's End

    Vinyl - This is a strictly limited 180g vinyl edition of the album - mastered and cut at Abbey Road - featuring the two grand compositions only.

    Side 1: Flight
    Side 2: A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers
     
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  18. DesertChaos

    DesertChaos Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Seems that Peter has also done a little bit of recording with Tim Bowness for Tim's next album:
    http://timbowness.co.uk/diary/

     
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  19. Seagull

    Seagull Seabird flavour member

    Location:
    Dorset,England
    Must ... Not ... Buy ... Vinyl ... AND ... CD.

    I have done this for Peter's solo album. The signed LP has arrived but was whisked away into my Xmas present pile. The CD box set won't come until next week. That is a late birthday present so I can have that when it arrives.

    Another Bowness album to come too.

    I should have shares in Burning Shed.
     
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  20. bhazen

    bhazen GOO GOO GOO JOOB

    Location:
    Deepest suburbia
    … All That Might Have Been … whew. It's taken me awhile to "get" it; but that's good, probably. I love the cinematic atmosphere of the thing; canny selection of cover images too (Tokyo at night?) …

    Can't wait for the next VdGG studio album.
     
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  21. Mazda

    Mazda The mystic one

    Does anyone knows if VdGG will tour in 2015? Maybe the new album would prompt them to do so?
     
  22. LordThanos1969

    LordThanos1969 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Phoenix, AZ, USA
    I was at the show in Phoenix too. I enjoyed it, though I was sad he didn't perform my favorite VdGG song, Killer.
     
  23. Rodney Toady

    Rodney Toady Waste of cyberspace

    Location:
    Finland
    Probably the most exhilarating piece of Van der Graaf Generator news this year is that the 7 classic Charisma albums will be released on SHM-SACD in March.
     
  24. Mik

    Mik Forum Resident

    Location:
    Barcelona, Spain
    Let's hope those 2015 DSD transfers (by the way, also released in SHM-CDs) sound way better (or at least not as compressed) than the latest remasters.
     
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  25. R. Totale

    R. Totale The Voice of Reason

    Hammill personally supervised and prepared the last round of remasters and claims to have had the other members sign off, so although I personally don't agree that's how he thinks the records should sound and I don't expect any further reissue to be different. The bonus cuts were nice to hear, but I'm glad I still have my records and bought a few spares along the way.
     
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