The"what,what?" Rega white belt upgrade

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by raferx, Aug 3, 2013.

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  1. jordanb87

    jordanb87 Forum Resident

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    By way of comparison, does anyone know how much a dealer sells a replacement black belt for? If it's something like $30, I'd step up to the white belt for an extra $30.
     
  2. Art K

    Art K Retired but not tired!

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    Standard belt $39, white belt $59.
     
  3. For $20 I wound certainly always go for white then.
     
  4. raferx

    raferx Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I'm glad you like your 1200 so much, that's great.
    I had one. Sold it. Never looked back.
    Now, back to the topic... if you don't have a Rega, never had a Rega, or are not interested in Rega, could you please explain why on Earth are you talking about something you seem to have no experience with on this thread?
     
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  5. missan

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    You mean, 'Don´t write things I don´t want to know' :cool:
     
  6. missan

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    Even if it is so that one test tone will not reveal everything, a 3150Hz test tone will reveal an awful lot. I can understand a certain unwillingness in some cases to check the TT in this way, but it´s very odd to me that different belts haven´t really been checked this way, at least I have not found any tests of them.
    If I was to change a belt or something else that could effect performance of the TT, using a test tone would be the first thing I´d do, naturally.
     
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  7. jon9091

    jon9091 Master Of Reality

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    I think I'd just put a record on and enjoy it.
     
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  8. missan

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    Horses for courses.
     
  9. thegage

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    On a modern belt-drive turntable in good working order the drive system has limited impact on wow and flutter. Of greater impact are eccentricity of LP pressing, imperfections in the LP surface, and interaction of the cartridge/tonearm. Discussion beginning p. 20 of the following: http://www.eminent-tech.com/Manuals/ET2damping.pdf
     
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  10. missan

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    It is usually so that other things than pure W&F are more dominent when measuring. However it very much depends on the modulating frequencies present.
    As we are most sensitive to a modulating freq at 4Hz it will still be so that actual platter driving inconsistencies cannot be neglected.
     
  11. Ntotrar

    Ntotrar Forum Resident

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    Just bought a RP6!
     
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  12. jon9091

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    Nice. Welcome to the club!
     
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  13. raferx

    raferx Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Awesome!
     
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  14. Bob_in_OKC

    Bob_in_OKC Forum Resident

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    An earlier comment attributed some appreciation to a Technics for its presumably low flutter. Miller Audio Research found Rega to have the lower flutter in this case.


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  15. missan

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    But You are showing a plot of a very old SP10II with unknown condition and unknown tonearm. To me this looks extremely good concidering the unlikely good shape. As You can see from the plot there are sidebands at 3.05 and 3.25Hz, indicating that something is not right with the TT, but it is still this good!
     
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  16. Bob_in_OKC

    Bob_in_OKC Forum Resident

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    There are Technics fans all over the forums who claim their 30-year-old turntable and their hearing are superior to Rega turntables with regard to pitch. This plot calls into question their credibility.
     
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  17. missan

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    No it´s just showing a plot of a Technics SP10II of unknown age and unknown condition and unknown tonearm, nothing else.
     
  18. Bob_in_OKC

    Bob_in_OKC Forum Resident

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    In a battle of providing any actual data on the topic, I'd have them beat 1-to-nothing at this point.
     
  19. Ntotrar

    Ntotrar Forum Resident

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    And the Rega plot shows a RP6 of unknown age, time in service, temperature, humidity, altitude, barometric pressure, day, night, color plinth, cart, season, time of day, number of beers, wall socket, powerstrip, UPS, coal, oil, hydro, wind and phase of the moon. If the the Techniques really were the end all to be all I'm sure it would be my first pick. As it is its a good TT. But I just bought a RP6 (its not even here yet) so I must be biased ;).

    Some say the green ones sound the best.
     
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  20. jon9091

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    Did you get the green one? ;)
     
  21. Ntotrar

    Ntotrar Forum Resident

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    Nope, Black...
     
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  22. missan

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    I don´t know where the battle is, a Don Quijote battle maybe. What´s interesting and important to me is only knowing how my own TT performs and why. As this is the one I´m listening to, it should be about as good as it gets.
     
  23. Antares

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    Sorry Bob, but that tells us absolutely nothing about the Rega white belt and why it might sound better than the stock one. That was off-side, the goal doesn't count (in soccer terms). ;)
     
  24. Harvest Your Thoughts

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    Can't remember if this has been asked before (by me or someone else!)

    Has anyone compared the red belt (a la RP40) to the white belt?

    I've seen red belts (not sure if they are official) advertised at a fraction of the price...
     
  25. missan

    missan Forum Resident

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    TTs are bought for subjective reasons, like most things in audio IMO. Never mind what TT we buy it´s only for a subjective reason.
     
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