The Who's Tommy, Quadrophenia films and The Kids Are Alright versions

Discussion in 'Visual Arts' started by ash006, Oct 29, 2018.

  1. ash006

    ash006 Active Member Thread Starter

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    Canada
    So I have ordered the DVD Criterion Quadrophenia, but what is the best home video version of Tommy? I also know that the 2009 two-disc DVD of TKAA is favoured, but I would like to hear everyone's opinions on the various versions of these and which are the best!

    Also, why on earth are these not available on streaming services? I'm in Canada and none of em are on Netflix...
     
  2. Quadboy

    Quadboy Forum Resident

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    There is also a 2 DVD of Tommy with a disc of extras /interviews mostly released about 15 years ago with a remastered print and 5.1 surround audio track.
    But it's still hard to enjoy the film.

    I have never seen TKAA on UK terrestrial TV since its release in '79.
    It's has done very well over the years in home video/dvd sales so maybe that's why it's not available for streaming/TV.
     
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  3. Jim B.

    Jim B. Forum Resident

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    I'm sure I read somewhere that the last version of TKAA is the only one to run at the right speed, as all previous versions had been sped up to reduce the running time at the cinema?
     
  4. ash006

    ash006 Active Member Thread Starter

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    Woah seriously? Is that the 2009 twodisc?
     
  5. genesim

    genesim Forum Resident

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    The bluray of Tommy has the original Quadrophonic soubdtrack in addition to the 5.1. To go with anything less is madness.
     
  6. Fun fact, I did a little digging and apparently Tommy has a rare Quintaphonic soundtrack with a center channel comprised of "mostly vocals and primary non-surround sound effects". I don't have any great love for the Tommy movie but that sounds like it'd be a great listen :D
     
  7. genesim

    genesim Forum Resident

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    It is. I enjoy the quad mix...and Ann rolling around in beans.
     
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  8. mBen989

    mBen989 Forum Resident

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    Here's the story. John Entwistle went and made some trims before the movie was shown in Europe (I know a good chunk of "A Quick One" went but I forget the other cuts made). Then this version was time compressed for a later VHS release (or was it a PAL to NTSC issue?)

    Apart from the CED laserdisc, the full version didn't reach these shores until Pioneer did their DVD and I believe the same HD master was recycled for the Bluray (although I believe "A Quick One" isn't cropped for widescreen on the Blu).

    However, as the Blu is out of print I'd grab the two disc Pioneer DVD.
     
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  9. mBen989

    mBen989 Forum Resident

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    For Tommy, I'd grab the current BluRay.
     
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  10. The Panda

    The Panda Forum Mutant

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    I saw it twice in a very large theater when released and it advertised itself as having the correct audio setup for the movie. Oh man, did they!
    I went first half messed up and went back to see it sober just to get everything out of that mix.
     
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  11. genesim

    genesim Forum Resident

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    Criterion also has a bluray of Quadrophenia. It would seem to me that this is the way to go as well.
     
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  12. ash006

    ash006 Active Member Thread Starter

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    As I say I do have the Quad Criterion DVD, and while the Tommy Bluray recommend is appreciated, does it have a DVD counterpart? I ask because as it stands my only Bluray machine is still a PS3 whereas just about every game console, computer and well, DVD recorder I own can play DVDs. I like compatibility.
     
  13. mBen989

    mBen989 Forum Resident

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    The old Sony flipper DVD shouldn't be hard to find unless you really want to go crazy and get the Superbit version.
     
  14. Slappy9001

    Slappy9001 Forum Resident

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    I don't think John made the trims. EMI, who released it in the UK, probably did, possibly for TV. This is (I think!) the version that New World released in the states.

    The two disk KIDS on DVD is great as it comes with a nice booklet, several "multi-angle" performances from Shepperton, and various other extras. "A Quick One" is cropped though. The Blu-Ray features HD sound and an uncropped "Quick One", but has no other special features. It did come with the booklet though.

    While the DVD and Blu-Ray corrected numerous pitch problems relating to PAL speedup, I still hold that "A Quick One" is running at the wrong speed. I think the version on the soundtrack CD is correct. The video versions, while at the correct pitch, are about 4% too slow tempo-wise.
     
  15. Quadboy

    Quadboy Forum Resident

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    My old early UK 1980's VHS was by a company called Channel 5.
    They did the other Who films also.
    Notable cuts were the first part of AQO.It came in at the Dang,Dang,Dang,Dang section.
    Also missing were the last 4 interview sections in between My Generation {Monterey] and WGFA Shepperton.
    WGFA cut in pretty quickly after Monterey too.

    I don't know if you ever noticed but on the multi angle ending of WGFA they cut in different footage from one of the other takes of the ending.
    It's noticeable if you make your own 4 angle version on 1 screen to see where band members are at all times.
     
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  16. Quadboy

    Quadboy Forum Resident

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    I'm surprised Roger hasn't pushed through some sort of 'Special Edition' of McVicar yet.
    Only a normal DVD available worldwide with no extras.
    A 'making of' and the promo videos wouldn't go amiss on it.
     
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  17. mBen989

    mBen989 Forum Resident

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    We got the full version theatrically.
     
  18. ash006

    ash006 Active Member Thread Starter

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    Is that what's considered going crazy? I have seen Superbit Tommy for as little as $7.

    Ah yes forgot about McVicar, are there not a lot of DVDs about of it?
     
  19. Quadboy

    Quadboy Forum Resident

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    I'm sure the basic DVD won't be hard to find.
    Whilst I like the film I'm not looking to buy it until they make something more of the package.
     
  20. ash006

    ash006 Active Member Thread Starter

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    Do ya think they ever will?
     
  21. Quadboy

    Quadboy Forum Resident

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    I have to say no.
    I think the film was more of a UK success than ROW.
    So they (Roger/Trinifold) probably figure it wouldn't recoup the costs of remastering it.
     
  22. mBen989

    mBen989 Forum Resident

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    Sorry, I was going by prices on Amazon. If you can find that, go for it.
     
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  23. chacha

    chacha Forum Resident

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    I hate that they time corrected Keith on the Shepperton stuff for this DVD. Drives me nuts.
     
  24. ash006

    ash006 Active Member Thread Starter

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    Corrected how so?
     
  25. mBen989

    mBen989 Forum Resident

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    I'll say better synchronization.
     

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