The Wood Glue vinyl cleaning method

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by alan909, Feb 10, 2008.

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  1. eddiel

    eddiel Senior Member

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    If I cleaned my records like that I'd have a collection of records with totally ruined labels and even worse sound due to the tap water in my area. I don't know how anyone cleaning records like that has managed to avoid destroying labels unless they're mostly buying records pressed post 1980 or something.

    I bet if we went through his collection we'd find quite a few water damaged labels.
     
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  2. Vinyl Addict

    Vinyl Addict Forum Resident

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    Wait.
    What?
     
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  3. Johnny Rocker

    Johnny Rocker Well-Known Member

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    Say you put glue on an album to clean it, then your phone rings, or someone is at the door, after you handle your bizness, you come back to find the glue rock solid, then your troubles are just starting.:cool:
     
  4. shadowlord

    shadowlord Forum Resident

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    no you need to let the glue dry before peeling anyway.
    (takes around 8h)
     
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  5. Vinyl Addict

    Vinyl Addict Forum Resident

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    No no no Johnny :cool:

    Apply the glue, LET IT DRY COMPLETELY, then peel it off the record. The glue needs to be dry all the way through. You'll see it change to a more clear color. When I did it, I let it dry overnight.
    Once it's dry, it will peel off in one big sheet.
    :righton:

    Personally, I've only done this for one record though (once on both sides) and I didn't see any difference, but I had already cleaned the record 3x already before using the glue.:shrug:
     
  6. I think this is the moment to share my video once again, for those visitors of this thread who haven't seen it yet:

     
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  7. eddiel

    eddiel Senior Member

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    I seriously don't know if you're just pulling out leg or genuinely don't know how it all works. The glue doesn't dry rock solid. If you've watched any of the videos showing how it's done you can clearly see it's not "rock solid" but very pliable. It's more like a piece of rubber than anything solid. There's really no major troubles starting if you do it properly.
     
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  8. eddiel

    eddiel Senior Member

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    You can definitely hear a difference. But the question is, would the results have been the same with an RCM? I'd say yeah they most likely would've and that was really the point of my post above.
     
  9. patient_ot

    patient_ot Senior Member

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    Does it work? Yes.

    Would I do it again? No, only as an absolute last resort. Too much of a PITA.

    Does it create static, forcing you to RCM clean the record afterwards? Yes.

    Does it hurt your records? I can't say.
     
  10. Johnny Rocker

    Johnny Rocker Well-Known Member

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    You must be using elmers style wood glue, I use the stuff for Balsa wood Rc airplanes, and model rockets, its like super glue, I can see where the elmers glue would work.:cool:[​IMG] [​IMG] Got ya' bro, I haven't used Elmers glue in ages.....:biglaugh:
     
  11. Vinyl Addict

    Vinyl Addict Forum Resident

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    Oooooh, yeah, don't use that stuff. :eek::shake:
    You want Titebond II carpenter's wood glue from any hardware store. :cheers:
     
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  12. Johnny Rocker

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    [​IMG] [​IMG] <<<<Wood glue, there are many types, you guys were talking the elmers style glue, which is indeed rubbery, so you are correct. I use hobby grade, for my many hobbys. Its been ages since I used elmers style glue, so I had an old man brain fart when yall said wood glue.;)
     
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  13. Vinyl Addict

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    I honestly thought you were pulling our legs as well...until I saw the airplane wood glue you were thinking of.
    :bigeek:
     
  14. Johnny Rocker

    Johnny Rocker Well-Known Member

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    I'm learning something, I didn't know retailers were selling dirty used lp's, I will keep my eyes open to this scenario incase I want to set up my pioneer record player....:cool:
     
  15. Johnny Rocker

    Johnny Rocker Well-Known Member

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    I do like to pull peoples chains. But when it comes to the tech info's I stick with the correct info's. I know a few things too.:cool:
     
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  16. Vinyl Addict

    Vinyl Addict Forum Resident

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    :cheers:
     
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  17. Johnny Rocker

    Johnny Rocker Well-Known Member

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  18. Did you read any posts in the thread or just the title?
     
  19. Johnny Rocker

    Johnny Rocker Well-Known Member

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    I read a few, and as a bonus I read the title too, so with that in mind, I had an olde man's brain fart, and thought they were using hobby grade wood glue instead of elemers wood glue.[​IMG]
     
  20. sloaches

    sloaches Forum Resident

    I haven't read through all the comments in this thread, but here is my two cents-

    I recently got a German copy of Queen's Greatest Hits that looked okay but played with a lot of crackle. I had tried the Titebond II wood glue trick on a couple of LPs before (with varying success) so I decided to use it on this album. Unfortunately my efforts failed miserably. It may be because-

    1- The glue I used was from an older bottle I bought about six years ago and was about half full

    2- I applied a thicker coat than I should have, and when I did I didn't use a turntable, just a covered table top. Plus, I smoothed it out with my finger instead of a card.

    3- As a result, the glue didn't completely dry for over 48 hours. When I tried to peel it off, it was very difficult to do without bending the record itself. As it was I gave up halfway through.

    At any rate, even though I have been able to do the wood glue trick in the past, I screwed it up this time.
     
  21. BIGGER Dave

    BIGGER Dave Forum Resident

    48 hours is a lot of time. Mine are always completely dry in 24 hours. And, I’ve never smoothed it with a card, always used my finger. Maybe the glue was too old or was applied too thick. Get some new TiteBond II and reapply. A new layer of glue should bond with any remaining old glue and get pulled away when pulling it off.
     
  22. HiFi Guy 008

    HiFi Guy 008 Forum Resident

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    But how's sloaches going to get the heavy glue off now?
     
  23. sloaches

    sloaches Forum Resident

    Unfortunately, the Queen record is a loss since my efforts to remove the wood glue wound up warping it. Besides, the glue ain't coming off.
     
  24. HiFi Guy 008

    HiFi Guy 008 Forum Resident

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    I'm sorry about your loss. Not being facetious.
     
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  25. BIGGER Dave

    BIGGER Dave Forum Resident

    Like I previously said, “A new layer of glue should bond with any remaining old glue and get pulled away when pulling it off”. But since the LP has been ruined, it no longer matters.
     
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