Thoughts on Beatles 2009 Remasters?

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by MrMojoRisin, Jan 3, 2018.

  1. MrMojoRisin

    MrMojoRisin Active Member Thread Starter

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    I assumed they were the definitive version of the albums until I came here and found out there is farrrr more out there than I ever realised in terms of versions of the albums. How do the 2009 remasters stack up against your favourite versions of the albums? Would you say they're good versions?

    Not the most interesting topic in the world, sorry but I'm interested and plus, it's still a Beatles thread so it's bound to invite some discussion :p
     
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  2. tlake6659

    tlake6659 Forum Resident

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    The Mono remasters are worth getting as well as the first four in stereo. The rest I prefer the original CDs.
     
  3. MrMojoRisin

    MrMojoRisin Active Member Thread Starter

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    What versions were the original CD's? Were they 80's remasters? I feel like I've heard that somewhere. And why do you prefer them?
     
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  4. Not a fan of the Stereo's.
    I own the first 4 out of necessity, but after that I stick to the Canadian 80's "Help" & "Rubber Soul" and the standard 1987 issues of the other albums.

    I do like the monos a lot. They were far more natural sounding than the Stereo remasters.
     
  5. Bender Rodriguez

    Bender Rodriguez RIP Exene, best dog ever. 2005-2016

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    It's possible this has been discussed before.
     
  6. Bruce Burgess

    Bruce Burgess Well-Known Member

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    Personally, I find the 2009 Mono Remasters to be the best sounding Beatles CDs ever. However, a much different mastering approach was used with the Stereo Remasters, resulting in a harder, more modern sound. For the stereo CDs, I prefer the original 1987 and 1988 CDs, which are more natural sounding. It's really too bad they didn't use the same mastering approach with the stereo CDs that they did with the mono CDs. Had they done so, I'm sure they could have improved on the original CDs.
     
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  7. MrMojoRisin

    MrMojoRisin Active Member Thread Starter

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    I don't doubt it, but I couldn't find anything on a quick search. People do tend to change their minds as well especially with so many new versions releasing.
    Also the 1987 vs 2009 remaster thread isn't available to view for some reason.
     
  8. Somerset Scholar

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    The mono's from 2009 are essential. The LP's from 2014, even more so. The "stock" of the 2009 stereo remasters has diminished somewhat but many still really like them. In general, I prefer the 87's if I want stereo as these sound more natural. However, I quite like to vary things a bit and do still enjoy the 2009 discs.
     
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  9. MrMojoRisin

    MrMojoRisin Active Member Thread Starter

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    No matter how hard I try, I just don't like the sound of mono. I wish I did so I could appreciate it the way a lot of you guys do. I'm happy with the 2009 versions, though :D
     
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  10. fmfxray373

    fmfxray373 Forum Resident

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    Well we go to church every Sunday also.....(well I'm a backslider).

    We should have a Beatles backslider thread...

    I love the 2009 stereos and pick them up at the thrifts whenever I can. Of course I bought them all new in 2009.
    I have the Mono Box to but I like stereo Beatles better.
     
  11. davesmoked

    davesmoked Well-Known Member

    Is the stereo boxset essential? I have plenty of albums bought separately. I know mono mix is superb
     
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  12. Somerset Scholar

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    I find I need to play the monos at high volume to really appreciate them at their best. My neighbours all seem to like them too.:laugh:
     
  13. Bender Rodriguez

    Bender Rodriguez RIP Exene, best dog ever. 2005-2016

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    This church?

    [​IMG]
     
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  14. fmfxray373

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    I broke out my 2009 Mono box Sgt Pepper and played them through some big speakers (Klipsch Epic CF-3s).

    I think the original stereo mix was a masterstroke, whether intentional or not. Yes some things are buried a bit that the mono brings out.
    However I have realized that there is great warmth to the stereo mix that just makes it something special. Just my opinion of course.
    I hear the music but I sort of feel a toasty dark warmness when I listen. Maybe it is me.
     
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  15. MrMojoRisin

    MrMojoRisin Active Member Thread Starter

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    Actually, I don't mind mono at all when playing through speakers, it's just my speakers are cheap and my headphones are for music listening, not my speakers. I do not like mono in headphones. I think that might be the same for most people, if my thread way back when told me anything.
    I would love to buy some mono versions of the albums for those rare occasions I do listen through big speakers but they're so expensive and I've never seen a store with them. Oh, well.
     
  16. Fleet Fox

    Fleet Fox Well-Known Member

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    I used to think the Stereo remasters 2009 were the best things since time began. But then after taking a step back and looking at thing objectively
    and reading some truths on this forum, I realized I was completely brainwashed by a marketing campaign that pulled me in like a sucker. I was not
    the only one tho so I don't beat myself up. The original CD's from 1980s (plus original or even 70s LP pressings) are better and really perfect.
    They didn't need messing about with,,but money talks i guess!
     
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  17. InStepWithTheStars

    InStepWithTheStars Forum Resident

    I swore I'd never participate in another Beatles thread, especially not one where I'll have a dissenting opinion and get alerts for years to come, but I feel like I'm the only person who really disliked the mono box. It's not horrible, but the mixes are so lifeless. I got a great deal on it and I was super excited. I popped on "If I Needed Someone"... and it sounded like crap. Oh sure, the mastering was fine, I liked that, but I don't understand how people can say it sounds better. All of the energy was just gone. It sounded like a hollow imitation of the song than the song itself. There's some other things, like how I've always hated the vocals on the mono "Help" and how I prefer the stereo takes for A Hard Day's Night and Please Please Me, but I was overwhelmed at how dull it sounded.

    If you're strictly looking for mastering and technicals, yeah, the mono box is great. But apart from the first four albums (which I personally prefer in stereo anyway), everything just sounded really, really off. And I have yet to encounter anyone who agrees with me.

    I think the mastering on the stereo CDs is fine. Not MFSL level or any of that but it brings much more clarity to these cloth ears than the '87 CDs ever could.
     
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  18. BadJack

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    It's the trousers?
     
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  19. Colocally

    Colocally Forum Resident

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    All people wanted until 2009 were the Beatles CDs upgraded, then they did and people decided there was nothing wrong with the originals.
    All people wanted until 2017 was Sgt Pepper remixed from the original session tapes, then they did and people decided there was nothing wrong with the originals.

    There is probably a pattern here somewhere...
     
  20. detroit muscle

    detroit muscle Forum Resident

    A lot of those truths are just opinions. There are a lot of truths on offer, but the only opinion that should matter is your own.
     
  21. Fleet Fox

    Fleet Fox Well-Known Member

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    well spotted LOL
     
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  22. Pudding Effect

    Pudding Effect Active Member

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    The received wisdom here appears to be: '09 remasters Please Please Me through to Rubber Soul and the 87-88 CDs for the remainder including Past Masters. I've re-bought and replaced accordingly and am quite happy with that as my collection.

    Do we have any staunch advocates for the 80's CDs of PPM to Rubber?
     
  23. BlueSpeedway

    BlueSpeedway Lodger in the Snow

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    Wasn’t there a press release about this at the time...? I’m not sure. Maybe someone remembers...
     
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  24. Colocally

    Colocally Forum Resident

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    Vaguely remember something about it, it might have been posted here, so long ago........
     
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  25. The 2009 mono CDs are much appreciated by me. I am also not a big fan of listening to mono mixes through headphones, but blasting these mono mixes in my car or through my home speakers is always a fun listen. The stereo mixes leave me rather indifferent. I don't dislike them, but I can't say I like them more than the '87 disks. I do like having nice stereo CDs of Beatles For Sale and A Hard Day's Night.
     
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