I only have Ace Of Spades (Castle Classics CLAD240) and it's great but sounds a bit like a jet engine trapped in a drainpipe. So which album on CD do you think presents the band with the fullest, richest sound?
I read somewhere Legacy and Profile share the same mastering. Perhaps all three (Roadracer included) are all the same mastering.
Have you tried any others? I think Bomber and Overkill sound very similar to Ace. And while I like Bomber and Overkill a lot, my 2 faves by them are Ace and Another Perfect Day.
Yeah Ace Of Spades CLACD is really tinny. It's probably the way the tapes sounds though. The Bronze orginal LP is similar. Like many other hardrock/metal albums from that era, it desperatly needs to be balanced with some bass-frequency put in. Flat transfer (i presume) ala Castle is not the way to go.
Slightly outside the full remit of this thread, but can reccomend the 5.1 DVD-A of Ace Of Spades!!! Bloody glorious.
Do the early Castle pressings have pre-emphasis? I know their Sabbath pressings do, but those may have come out earlier.
I got curious so i checked with EAC on my Ace Of Spades CLACD-240. No Pre, well not in TOC anyways. I don't have the version that detects subcode.
Man, what a great thread...please don't let it die! I now have the 1991 Roadracers of Overkill, Bomber, and Ace of Spades. They are by far the best I've heard Motorhead sound on CD...very close to how I remember my brother's old vinyls sounding. Would really love to hear recommendations for No Sleep 'til Hammersmith, Iron Fist...and then all the rest! \m/
Funny you should mention those because I ordered them a couple days ago. I wasn't going to at first because I assumed they were the same mastering as the Roadracers, but I've since learned they are not. Can't wait to hear them, I bet they ROCK! \m/
I managed to score a NM GWR/Profile PAD-1223 Orgasmatron off of eBay for $15. This is the "manufactured in Japan" version. I was lucky to get it so cheap because he misspelled Motorhead as "Motor heard" so it probably wasn't showing up in anyone's searches. Sound on it is pretty nice. I had the vinyl long, long ago but that was on a really lousy system so I don't even have a reference to base this CD off of except the remaster, which it easily bests.
Ace of Spades is an all time classic album of course but I have to say it is one of THE WORST sounding vinyl in my collection of 1500-2000. Zero bass, no clarity, complete garbage recording. I am spinning a NM German original on the Bronze label. Shockingly poor. This is being removed right now.
Yeah i'm guessing that's pretty much how the tapes sound. The Castle CLACD sounds somewhat the same and should be avoided at all cost. However the Legacy/Roadracer discs does not. Best way to hear it.
The Legacy for Ace of Spades isn't the same as the Roadracer. ?? None of the CDs sound very good. I have the '96 1st, followed by the DE. But I do think that if you de-emphasize the Legacy/Profile (which are the same), that *that* is the best sounding CD there is.
Sounds about the same to me but some seem to think otherwise. I haven't done any serious comparison so i leave it at that.
That's correct, the Legacy and Roadracer for Ace of Spade are the exact same (except of course for the addition of the bonus track "Dirty Love" on the Roadracer). I thought they sounded the same, but to be sure, I ran both discs through EAC just now and they have the same peak levels. I'm guessing any difference in sound may be due to pressing difference, since it's clearly not due to the mastering. Sometimes people imagine differences that aren't there though...been guilty of that myself a couple times. Legacy: 81.9 % / 100.0 % / 75.0 % / 78.5 % / 93.1 % / 86.2 % / 85.7 % / 84.9 % / 82.7 % / 76.2 % / 94.3 % / 94.6 % Roadracer: 81.9 % / 100.0 % / 75.0 % / 78.5 % / 93.1 % / 86.2 % / 85.7 % / 84.9 % / 82.7 % / 76.2 % / 94.3 % / 94.6 % / 75.9 %
You mean the TEICHU? Interesting one. From my A/B comparison i did a while ago on AOS i remember it sounded a bit different from the Legacy. I think it's from the same source as the CLACD. DR-values is the same. Not peak-levels though. So defenitly tweaked. DR-values are slightly better on the Legacy which makes me suspect that the Legacy might be from the master-tapes. CLACD/Teichu could well be from cutting-tapes. I mean the CLACD sounds almost identical to the Bronze LP.
