Vinyl Reissues To Avoid

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by iamthecosmos, Mar 15, 2013.

  1. firefoxussr

    firefoxussr Well-Known Member

    naples, fl usa
    I agree with that I have 3 Marilyn Manson LP sets and a Bush LP set which are all post-2000 and the best sounding issues available. (Also all on Interscope... coincidence, i think not).
  2. Paul Saldana

    Paul Saldana Forum Resident

    Hallandale Beach
    I am thrilled that they did not rip you off. What experience I have had with their reissues was all negative and consequently I have determined it is nearly always worth my while to seek out original pressings. Two eras? Bootlegs? I've heard enough to stay away even without this additional information.
  3. M.Deutrom

    M.Deutrom Well-Known Member

    I have yet to hear a good pressing of Tilt or The Drift by Scott Walker. These
    have all kinds of surface noise. Bish Bosh is also pretty awful. Any ideas about
    who 4AD is using for those ?
  4. SimplyOrange

    SimplyOrange Well-Known Member

    I have two Friday Music LPs. Deep Purple's Fireball and Mountain's Climbing. The latter was also done with Kevin Gray. Fireball sounds shrill and Climbing sounds great, except that some of the instruments sound as if they're missing from the mix (bad EQ?).
  5. Marko K

    Marko K Forum Resident

    Estonia, EU
    EU or US pressing? There is a huge difference between The Drift reissues - the EU reissue pressing is 180g and the US reissue pressing is 140g. The US pressing has scuffs and nonfill, the EU pressing is perfect. I have two copies of the US pressing and three copies of the EU pressing. I dont have the original which is supposedly the worst - a lot of surface noise.

    The EU pressing of Bish Bosch is pretty much perfect too, i dont have the US pressing for that to compare.

    I have only listened to couple of sides of both of the EU pressings (The Drift and Bish Bosch), and there was minimal surface noise if at all.
  6. Alan2

    Alan2 Forum Resident

    No, not quite the only person here, if you mean the whole of SH forums. Stone Turntable has it about right, above. The best way to approach SV is on a case by case basis. They've done John Martyn: Solid Air not that long ago, from original tapes, for instance. :)
  7. M.Deutrom

    M.Deutrom Well-Known Member

    Looks like I need to seek out some EU issues. Thanks.
  8. sgb

    sgb Forum Resident

    Baton Rouge
    I have only ONE Simply Vinyl LP, Getz/Gilberto, which was recommended by someone here in another thread. It's terrific! :righton:
  9. jeffrey walsh

    jeffrey walsh Forum Resident

    Scranton, Pa. USA
    Does the Mountain pressing have the original Windfall labels?

  10. SimplyOrange

    SimplyOrange Well-Known Member

    Yes. It has the original Windfall label except it might say something like "Friday Music" on the bottom. Not sure if it's the same pressing as the one in that video.
  11. schelti

    schelti Forum Resident

    Which reissues are you talking about?
  12. schelti

    schelti Forum Resident

    I have a few Elvis Presley records on Friday Music, sound really good to me.
    If you like Elvis, try From Elvis In Memphis.
  13. jeffrey walsh

    jeffrey walsh Forum Resident

    Scranton, Pa. USA
    let's hope not!
  14. Geoffsterpiano

    Geoffsterpiano Member

    As someone who has also recently started rebuilding my vinyl collection, I've got a few questions about some particular reissues .. First, the 40th anniversary Back To Black reissue of Goodbye Yellow Brick Road. I've heard BTB reissues are treated with some suspicion, although this particular release claims - on the cover - to be a 2014 remaster by Bob Ludwig at Gateway Mastering from the original analogue tapes, and mastered for vinyl by Doug Sax at The Mastering Lab. In which case, how can you go wrong? Still, I'm curious as to whether anyone here has heard this particular version of GYBR and to know their opinion.
    Another I'm curious about is a Music On Vinyl 180gm reissue of S&G's Bridge Over Troubled Water. Any reports about that one?
    I've recently bought the reissues of Fleetwood Mac (the white album) and Rumours - the 33&1/3 RPM single disc versions, as I couldn't afford the 45rpm versions. Haven't had the chance to hear them yet as I'm waiting for my new turntable to arrive, but I'm keen to hear any opinions on those too...
  15. falc0nwhit

    falc0nwhit New Member

    I once found a mint copy of Television Marquee Moon reissue by 4 men w beards - sounded so bad compared to my original copy that I couldn't play it past a couple of song and got rid of it immediately. horrible.
  16. celticbob

    celticbob Forum Resident

    My 33 & 1/3 of Rumours sounds good to me. I have the GYBR but have yet to play it. I have read good things about it. May spin it today. If I do I will let you know.
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  17. davidshirt

    davidshirt =^,,^=

    Grand Terrace, CA
    The '70s and '80s Cohen albums that got reissued by 4men with beards? Yeah. They're not that good.
  18. James_S888

    James_S888 Forum Resident

    They suck.
    The original "Various Positions" was a Europe only vinyl edition, mastered at Sterling, pressed in the Netherlands. It is fabulous sounding. The reissue is nowhere close. I had a listen at the record shop around the corner from where I work. It sounds digital.
  19. James_S888

    James_S888 Forum Resident

    Bob Ludwig so far as I know only does digital. Which means he probably sent 96k/24 bit files to doug sax. or maybe 192/24.
  20. cjp123

    cjp123 Active Member

    Bay Area, CA
    So I just heard back from Polysom about the Gal Costa lps--and this is what they told me:
    These 2 records were mastered from the original reel-to-reel analog tapes, by Ricardo Garcia, at Magic Master, in Rio de Janeiro.
    All the best,

    Visite nosso site
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  21. Folknik

    Folknik Forum Resident

    Anything abridged.
  22. maxheadroom

    maxheadroom Forum Resident

    Sao Paulo, Brasil
    yeah, it's become a mixed bag since I posted that reply. Some more recent releases are being mastered from analog tapes.
  23. southamorican

    southamorican Forum Resident

    São Paulo
    They might be from analog tapes, but they are "Crosley-friendly masters"... :shake:,producao-brasileira-de-lps-cresce-60-ao-ano,1672037

    Another funnel for a comeback of the format in a larger scale are the record-players, a market that awakens slowly and still doesn’t produce equipment with a quality similar to the old brands of the ‘60s or ‘70s. That could be considered pretentiousness if such limitations didn’t imply in decisions in the manufacturing, in order to make the LPs compatible with these devices. “Polysom’s quality control is very rigid, but using high-quality equipment like Technics or Newmark. However, there are some really low-quality turntables in the market and everything that we conquered in terms of good sound in some records we had to change in order for them not to skip on these small record players. In the past, the plants didn’t care about this. The guy would buy a record and if it skipped, he would get a matchbox and place it on top of the tone-arm. Today these record players are so bad that that doesn’t work anymore. To cater for both kinds of devices, we have to alter the equalization, reduce the lows, reduce the volume, move the lows to the center. These are processes that we wouldn’t like to do. We didn’t hear any defects when we made the records, but the people would complain: “hey, it’s skipping on this track”. Still, according to João, only a comparison with an original on a good system would show the limitations of the reissues.
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  24. maxheadroom

    maxheadroom Forum Resident

    Sao Paulo, Brasil
    Well I bought Gilberto Gil's last album (Gilbertos Samba) from them and the quality was very good. It was probably mastered from hi-res digital (because it was recorded digitally) but I have zero complaints about sound quality, quite the contrary in fact.

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