Vinyls with Stereo Bass?*

What the heck are you talking about, exactly?
And please, it's "vinyl", not "vinyls". Yeesh.

 

...obviously done for effect... (of course, it would appear the channels are reversed in this vid / correct on my LP pressing)

 

Love - Forever Changes is one of the more challenging records to track for any system. It has hard-panned bass and drums on the same channel!

The recent Rhino/Elektra reissue is excellent. I doubt many cheap record players could get through it without skipping. Has anyone here heard the MoFi reissue?

 

Op is brilliant. Did you all miss it?

 

How about some of the early Beatles pingpong stereo recordings? They had the entire band on one channel and all the vocals in the other. So the bass ought to be in one channel as well.

 

Despite the syntax, I think the question is a legitimate one of interest. I don't know the answer, though a list of records where the tracks weren't combined into a mono signal might be interesting. Right now, I am running by 15 inch subs summed at a 50hz crossover point which enables me to use a small DSP add on unit. I know a few tape heads who say one big difference playing back over 15 ips two track is the bass remains in stereo and is not summed. I've heard some of those tapes and they are impressive, not just in the bass region. So, I'm down wit da thread.
Yours, etc.

 

Evan Brewer - Two Basses:

 

Triple Basses:

 

If there are two or more records - the root word 'bi' is applicable. So the correct term is binyls. Not vinyls.

 

Big Bi Bass Binvyls?

 

Since vinyls is controversial, why not call it platters? It should be no less wrong.

 

It may not be your thing, but a lot of Metallica albums have the double bass drums dual-miked. Back in the day (with dual Kicker 15" solo-barics in my car and from a CD) you could clearly hear the double-bass on '...And Justice for All'. I haven't played my vinyl copy since I got dual subs in my home setup. Thanks for suggesting a homework assignment!!

 

So like one kick in L and one in R? Insane!!!

 

Doesn't Paperback Writer have the bass coming out of a single speaker? Lady Madonna too. Probably lots more.

 

Bass and "in justice for all " in one sentence, wow!

 

"Something" by The Beatles.

"I Heard It Through The Grapevine" by Marvin Gaye.

 

To be clear, when I asked about stereo bass, the word 'bass' was not referring to an instrument, but rather a portion of the audio spectrum. The lower end of the spectrum to be exact. So, a bass instrument could be in only one channel, but the very lowest frequencies from this instrument may be coming from both speakers. Likewise, the upper end of the spectrum of this same instrument would be coming from just one speaker, but that's not the point of this thread. The same signal from both speakers would imply mono. After reading some of these suggestions, it occurred to me that the Ramones first album has drums and vocal in the center, guitar in one channel and bass guitar in the other. I have this album, so I can check it out to see if frequencies below, say, 120Hz come from only one channel or both. Alas, the turntable Waxfreak somehow photographed in my home died a couple weeks ago with a flash, bang, and a large puff of smoke. Thus, it may be a while before I can get any firsthand analysis of the Ramones.

 

I thought that the limitations of vinyl meant that the lowest bass frequencies had to be in the center?

 

However there was a ton of mic bleed on those recordings. The channels weren't isolated.

 

Doesn't this depend on the recording level? I have to believe there are many classical LPs with stereo bass information. You can't arbitrarily pan different sections of the orchestra around. I think this is just an artifact of amplified bass and big pipe organ music.

 

You gonna getcha some bong-rattling vinyls there , baby !

 

It's no wonder then, why their first album master blew the cutter head, and 2016 remaster almost did the same @ Abbey road studios.

 

I like rekkids.

 

Im not sure you can have stereo bass on a record. With bass frequencies panned hard left and right, I believe the cutting engineer would use an elliptical equalizer which sums to mono below a chosen crossover frequency. On a vintage hardware unit crossover points would be something like 75/150/300Hz, which the engineer would choose based on the situation. Would be interested to know if someone checks a record and the the frequencies go to mono around one of these frequencies.