Was Houses of the Holy a step down in quality after 4?

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Morfmusic, Nov 8, 2018.

  1. B. Bu Po

    B. Bu Po Forum Resident

    A big step up.
     
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  2. George Co-Stanza

    George Co-Stanza Forum Resident

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    I prefer Houses to IV, but I can see how many would have considered it a small step back at the time. Black Dog, Rock and Roll and Stairway to Heaven are probably three of their four or five biggest classic rock staples, and most of the better songs on Houses were a little more out there and not as mainstream (although it being LZ, they still got played a ton).
     
  3. Bathory

    Bathory 30 yr Single Malt, not just for breakfast anymore

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    No, houses of holy is a great record.

    My disappointment is CODA. I LIKE IT, BUT SONGWRITING WENT DOWNHILL THERE
     
  4. Terry

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    Um, Coda is a compilation of previously unreleased material spanning several years.
     
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  5. sunking101

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    Up to and including HOH they really could do no wrong IMO. After that you can start picking faults. I think they peaked with 5.
     
  6. Bathory

    Bathory 30 yr Single Malt, not just for breakfast anymore

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    I kmow.
    Its all over.
    I like it, but the arrangement of songs is poor, i would have changed the song order
     
  7. uzn007

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    Who are you people?
     
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  8. trickness

    trickness Forum Resident

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    ok, I admit, that WAS a little bit harsh....
     
  9. ssmith3046

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    4 was coming out behind every door in dorm. Plus a lot smoke. Then I heard Houses coming out from behind all the doors. Plus a lot of smoke. Equal.
     
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  10. dmiller458

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    Was Houses of the Holy a step down in quality after 4?

    No.
     
  11. I333I

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    The last few minutes of The Ocean is better than most songs on IV.
     
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  12. I333I

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    I’ve been listening to LZ for 25 years and IV is my least listened to of theirs by far.
     
  13. john lennonist

    john lennonist There ONCE was a NOTE, PURE and EASY...

    HOtH was a major step down, AFAIC.

    By far the worst album of the first six (though The Rain Song is great)
     
  14. uzn007

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    Your boldface text has convinced me.
     
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  15. john lennonist

    john lennonist There ONCE was a NOTE, PURE and EASY...

    Geez, sorry to answer the OP's question, uzn007.

    And for playing on your lawn.
     
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  16. JasonH

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    Not a step down. It was even more ambitious than IV.
     
  17. uzn007

    uzn007 Pack Rat

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    Apology accepted.
     
  18. mr. suit

    mr. suit Active Member

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    spot on!
     
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  19. setlistthief

    setlistthief Forum Resident

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    This.
     
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  20. mr. suit

    mr. suit Active Member

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    scope, yes. quality, no!
     
  21. setlistthief

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    Satan...clearly.
     
  22. kaztor

    kaztor Forum Resident

    It is very modern sounding indeed.
    IV sounds more classicist and a bit darker.
    HOTH sounds like a veil has been lifted. Brighter and more in-your-face, which serves it’s nature.
     
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  23. SecondHandNews

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    I prefer Houses to IV, so for me, no.
     
  24. setlistthief

    setlistthief Forum Resident

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    I've just been listening to HOTH as I read through this thread..."oh, so good." LZ was clearly expanding their musical palette from album to album, not steps up or down, but outward. Where there is a sort of "sameness" to IV (a virtue in and of itself), there is an adventurous to the music of Houses. One thing to which I always pay attention is the running order. The wrong song order can absolutely kill an album. Not so with Houses-even the jokey songs have a purpose in their placement, almost like comic relief. D'yer Mak'er into NQ is brilliant pacing, point counterpoint and a study in contrasts.
     
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  25. kaztor

    kaztor Forum Resident

    I think Presence is the summit of their achievements with ITTOD being an interesting and curious look
    of where to go next. A very focused barnstormer of an album which takes no prisoners. Not a popular opinion, but I’m entitled to mine. ;)
     

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