Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Morfmusic, Nov 8, 2018.
No, I don’t.
Judging from reactions the two contenders aren’t together on the same album side.
Imo they didn’t ‘return’ to anything on PG.
The ‘new’ songs sound like a midway point between HOTH ‘s eclectism towards the back-to-basics monster grooves that would dominate Presence.
The added leftovers serve to lighten up the mood and give the album it’s own schwung.
Nope. HOTH has Over The Hills and Far Away. They never reached that high again. The apotheosis.
Both are excellent albums with IV nudging it for me - HOTH was though more experimental - a band looking for new horizons as they had done pretty much from the start. Some of those experiments worked really well and some marginally less so but Zeppelin on 3 cylinders was still a better engine then their rock contemporaries. A million bands would kill to have HOTH in their back catalogue.
In my opinion, HOTH was something of a step down after IV. But still really, really great.
Yes but it's still a great album.
4 raised the bar too high.
I have a soft spot for Houses.
(I really enjoy 5 of the songs but can't be bothered with the other 3.)
Yes they have lightened their edge and undertaken new experiments so to me the album breathes more than IV and goes in more directions.
For that it is less consistent and not as relentless as IV.
HOTH has greatness and some mediocrity. It doesn't work that well as an album because of this. 4/5 album.
Runes is just killer Zep all the way. 5/5
No. It's just not as even or seems overall as focused as the previous one. I've always thought fwiw No Quarter goes better with the first side and Over The Hills with the 2nd. The Crunge is a B Side if they were a Singles band. Instead, imo, for LZ it's a throway and try to forgot about deep album track. Houses works better as an album imo without it. Have No Quarter close Side 1 and put Over The Hills on Side 2. It makes for a more consistemt listen, for me. YMWV
HOTH deliberately takes more of an acoustic approach. Less heavy, more folk influenced. It’s a wonderful album. It’s another side of Zeppelin. It’s brilliant.
Silly me, I mean't the opening track The Song Remains The Same. Then there's the magnificent Over The Hills And Far Away.
This is my favorite led zepplin album so I'd have to say no. I rank it
Houses of the holy
In through the out door
Listening to both as I read through this thread, my conclusion is since each album offers 8 cuts each I am calling
a statistical tie.
It’s funny and it’s obvious the band is enjoying themselves, but I always found it a bit too jarring, even on an album with Fool In The Rain on it, and following on the heels of that one and South Bound Suarez it feels like one style-shift too many.
Ozone Baby shows the band’s versatility in a more palatable way with a straight-up pop-rocker that fits 1979 like a glove. Just my opinion, though.
SQ-wise Presence tops ‘em all.
The numbers 4 and 8 are very prominent in Zep, aren't they?
8 tracks on each of these albums.
8 albums in the catalogue.
And on these albums you have the songs 'Four Sticks' and 'No Quarter'.
A step down in quality? Absolutely not. For me, "Houses..." was the plateau they reached after IV. I would then argue that this was continued into "Physical Graffiti", and then fell off after that.
That he was creating some nice, surreal imagery?
I'm a huge Zappa fan so I dig that sort of thing.
Yes - some good stuff but I could do without the rain song.
Different, but I find HOTH more enjoyable than untitled/IV. In particular if you replace the Crunge with the Rover, recorded in the same session, HOTH becomes the best album if all time.
I've always considered Houses of the Holy the best Led Zeppelin album, so no.
In my world, Zep did not really take a step down until ITTOD.
The only knock I have on Houses is Plant's vocals on "The Song Remains The Same". For me, I prefer the concert soundtrack version much better. Otherwise it's a pretty solid album.
The Ocean is an outstanding way to close an album.
It sets the stage of what was to come like Levee did on IV.
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