Was Oasis the biggest band in the world?

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  1. Ern

    Ern Forum Resident

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    Good taste.
     
  2. Rufus rag

    Rufus rag Forum Resident

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    Not so much I don't rate the debut but I can almost hear something I've heard before on it! Noel didn't stop being a thieving magpie & an established songwriter until What's the Story and Be Here Now. I bought the next album which didn't impress and got off board at that point. Even the subsequent singles wher'nt enough to make me dip my toes again. In my opinion of course as a casual fan!
    It's interesting to note that the expanded reissues appear to have come to a grinding halt after Be Here Now was released!
     
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  3. tumbledweeb

    tumbledweeb Active Member

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    Where exactly (which songs) did Oasis rip off The Beatles?
     
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  4. Purple Jim

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    Well in fact no, because festival of the 60s and 70s were about "ROCK" and not the commercial pop that was filling the charts.
    10cc, The Beach Boys, Chas & Dave and Elkie Brooks were the only more "pop" orientated bands to appear.

    KNEBWORTH1974:
    The Allman Brothers Band
    The Doobie Brothers
    Van Morrison
    Mahavishnu Orchestra
    The Sensational Alex Harvey Band
    Tim Buckley

    KNEBWORTH 1975:
    Pinn FLoyd
    Steve Miller Band
    Captain Beefheart
    Roy Harper & Trigger
    Linda Lewis

    KNEBWORTH 1976:
    The ROlling Stones
    10cc
    Lynyrd Skynyrd
    Todd Rundgren's Utopia
    Hot Tuna
    Don Harrison Band

    KNEBWORTH 1978:
    Genesis
    Jefferson Starship
    Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
    Devo
    Brand X
    Atlanta Rhythm Section
    Roy Harper

    KNEBWORTH 1979:
    Led Zeppelin
    New Barbarians
    Todd Rundgren's Utopia
    Southside Johnny and The Asbury Jukes
    The New Commander Cody Band
    Fairport Convention
    Chas and Dave.

    KNEBWORTH 1980:
    The Beach Boys
    Santana
    Mike Oldfield
    The Blues Band
    Elkie Brooks
    Lindisfarne

    KNEBWORTH 1985:
    Deep Purple
    Scorpions
    Meat Loaf
    UFO
    Mountain
    Blackfoot
    Mama's Boys
    Alaska.

    KNEBWORTH 1986:
    Queen
    Status Quo
    Big Country
    Beloius Some.

    Source:
    1974 Knebworth Festival,The Bucolic frolic

    Main page:
    the archive ,a history of Uk rock festivals -1960-92: January 2016
     
  5. DownInAHole

    DownInAHole Well-Known Member

    I never understood that criticism. Yes, they talked about the Beatles but musically there are very few similarities. In general, Oasis are much louder and "heavier" than the Beatles.

    Lyrically, I can understand the criticism somewhat. Particularly on the Be Here Now album where they quote some Beatles lyrics. However, that doesn't bother me. I see it as a tribute rather than a rip off.
     
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  6. Man at C&A

    Man at C&A Forum Resident

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    There's crap rock music too! Some on that list.
     
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  7. Purple Jim

    Purple Jim Forum Resident

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    Whether one likes or dislikes some of the acts doesn't change the fact that the festivals of the era had a more serious rock orientation - which was my point.
     
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  8. Man at C&A

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    I know, I just hate the whole rock = serious, pop = commercial junk mentality that we often see. There's a lot of commercial rock music that's every bit as shallow as pop music.
     
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  9. Purple Jim

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    I liked that seperation of the two universes. It was nice to belong to the other side. Still is.:D Screw commercial pop.
     
  10. Man at C&A

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    Yeah! Let's have serious and meaningful non commercial rock songs with meaning like Black Night by Deep Purple:

    "Black night is not right,
    I don't feel so bright..."

    "Black night, black night,
    I don't need black night,
    I can't see dark night."

    As seen mimed on Top of the Pops!

    Yeah! Screw pop and it's commercial meaningless crap.

    There's often not much difference. I do love Deep Purple by the way.
     
  11. tumbledweeb

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    I couldn't agree more, they were obviously influenced by The Beatles but to say they ripped them off is a bit much. Noel wasn't above nicking things here and there though but neither were The Beatles who borrowed or nicked things off their musical heroes as well.
     
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  12. Graham

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    Not even a fan, but All Around The World owes a lot to Hey Jude if I remember correctly.
     
  13. Bobby Morrow

    Bobby Morrow Forum Resident

    I love All Around The World. Had it been a sensible length, it was perhaps the most obvious hit on Be Here Now.
     
  14. clarkydaz

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    there are loads of little riffs n references, but they don't really 'sound' like the Beatles at all. From day one Noel has always been upfront about it
     
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  15. clarkydaz

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    great recommendation, if you don't like these you don't like Oasis :)
     
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  16. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    Is there a big cd box with all the albums singles b sides on it available?
     
  17. Bobby Morrow

    Bobby Morrow Forum Resident

    I think there are separate boxes for the first 2 albums. Not sure about the rest.
     
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  18. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    :righton:
     
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  19. tumbledweeb

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    Yes it probably was influenced by Hey Jude but I wouldn't say it rips it off and just like Hey Jude they are both too long imo :)
     
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  20. OobuJoobu

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    Just to clarify, right from the start the reissue program was announced as covering the first 3 albums only (although I'm sure that was for fairly sound financial reasons...)
     
  21. clarkydaz

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    its just the na nas at the end. if you see the video for it, its very yellow submarine

    other examples include;

    cigarettes and alcohol - t rex
    shakermaker - I like to teach the world to sing
    don't look back in anger - intro imagine
    supersonic guitar lick - my sweet lord
    who feels love - dear prudence
     
  22. tumbledweeb

    tumbledweeb Active Member

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    Yes like I said above Noel isn't above nicking things from their idols but so has just about every other recording artists ever including The Beatles so I just don't understand why Oasis always get pinged for it, maybe because Noel freely admits it? I still think they had their own sound and style and brought something new to the table as well.
     
  23. clarkydaz

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    yeah, mouthy opinionated and refreshingly honest. Need something to beat him/the band with
     
  24. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    Inspired ?
    Somebody has about 20/30 borrowed /plagiarism songs on y tube.
     
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  25. Jim B.

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    I kind of think Noel's genius isn't as a great songwriter or guitar player but his ability to make very little talent go a long long way and the ability to 'borrow' so much and disguise it so well as his own.

    That may seem like a criticism but really it's a compliment.
     

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