What if Phil Spector didn't pull the trigger?

I would think Phil's spin doctors should have gotten to work a few months earlier. No tracings on his hand, eh? Sounds like that would be pretty convincing case.

 

It would sure be a relief to know the truth and these "what if's" wouldn't surprise me all that much as it has been shown numerous times throughout history where it's more important for the policing system to have someone to pin the blame on as opposed to revealing the actual truth.

 

IF they can find no tracings on Phil's hands, my next recommended step would be a lie detector test. Not knowing the stability of Phil's mind, it's anybody's guess if he would actually pass it, but a strong desire to prove his innocence would be a motivating factor. I strongly hope Phil is truly innocent; it would be very sad to see him spend possibly the rest of his life in jail(if he wasn't given a death sentence).

Very sad case overall.

 

Steve,

Actually, in the craziness of human existence, life experiences this explanation is not only possible but also, plausable.

Human behavior can be very complex or just an episode away with with "bad" Tequila....

Bob

 

Yeah Dave - I agree. It strikes me as odd that the police would try to prove a non-truth when the obvious truth saves everyone time and effort. For what it's worth, I always felt it was a tremendous leap from being a reclusive, demanding control freak to murder. Maybe just because Phil has a reputation for being difficult, the temptation to be a "celebrity police officer" is beyond temptation. Funny how that seems to affect left coast cops more often than I've seen it here.

 

"Arrest 'em first and ask questions later" seems to be the modus operandi there.

 

Geez, what the heck is Shapiro waiting for? Get the forensics evidence! Forget about testimony from people who weren't there! I once had a college prof/teacher who was part of the CPD that taught our class forensics evidence carry far more weight than any witness simply because witnesses can be unreliable. If that's the general consensus of the whole law enforcement and legal community, I mean, c'mon!

 

Very interesting. I've been wondering why they haven't charged him. I watched a great show on Court TV the other night called Jon Benet Ramsey - A Second Look. Watch this show and it will blow your mind. The Boulder police did the same thing to the Ramsey's - decided they were guilty and tried to bury all evidence to the contrary. When the people in power want to get you, you better hope you're rich.

 

All too true. Phil is in such a position, I believe. The police have long considered him a wacko, and now want to get him institutionalised.

 

All unfortunate "what ifs" in the "cult of celebrity" society in which we live. Two points however:
- Calling 9-1-1 is calling the police.
- As a gun owner who assumes the responsibility of allowing guests (no matter how crazy, IN FACT, because they're crazy) into his house, he assumes the obligation of not keeping loaded guns accessible or even semi accessible (ie. hidden in drawers). An argument can made that it is his house and therefore his castle but once he let her or anyone else in, he assumes that responsibility and obligation. Think of the news stories of children playing with parents guns that end in tragedy because the guns were accessible. I am a gun owner who up until this month lived alone. I used to keep my gun wherever I pleased. Now I have to either leave my gun at work or properly safeguard it with a trigger guard or secure it in a locked safe. That is the moral obligation I assumed by voluntarily opening my house to another.

These observations should not be read as comments on gun control or gun laws or any other can of worms (like religion or politics) that would be sure to have this vital thread closed, censored, deleted or otherwise derailed. I read Steve's observations as an invitation to examine the responsibilities of the participants; those conducting the investigation, those of judging at home and yes even Phil and the woman herself.

 

Interesting ... very interesting.

 

I thought this was going to be a thread about the over-usage of the wall of sound on "All Things Must Pass."

 

Friends,

In this scenario, there could be many explanations for what really went down. We may never know what really happened or the exact circumstances may be officially revealed at a later date. I suspect that there was history in this relationship (as with most human relationships). Such history is not always placid or without conflict....

Bob

 

Well, Phil has been cleared of this, right? So thats that.

 

This should be in the Off Topic area, unless we're convicting him for Let It Be.

 

Ha!!! Which Im sure Mr Mcartney would.....

 

Phil has not been cleared, but if they haven't come up with anything to charge him yet then it's looking good for him.

 

Mike, are you sure? I heard on the news that Phil was cleared of this crime, and thats why he was released..

 

Spector, 62, who produced records for acts like the Beatles, Elvis Presley and the Ramones, was arrested Feb. 3 for investigation of murder after Clarkson, a 40-year-old model and B-movie actress, was found shot to death in the foyer of his hilltop home in suburban Alhambra.

No charges have been filed, and Spector was released on $1 million bail. His attorney, Robert Shapiro, did not immediately return a call Tuesday.

The investigation could continue until summer because the evidence is complex and forensic tests take months to complete, Merriman said.

mud-

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Entertainment/ap20030311_1719.html

 

that answers my question!!!

 

Read: If this were your average Joe, he would already be in jail guilty of murder. But since this is Phil Spector and he has money to hire a good lawyer, we are afraid that he might be able to prove that we are full of crap so we are working extra hard to cover our asses, Merriman said.

Btw Steve, if you want to read a great book about LA police and their relationship with celebrities, check out "LA Secret Police: Inside The LAPD Elite Spy Network" by Mike Rothmiller who was a police officer in the celebrity spy squad - great stuff.

 

As always.