Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Kim Olesen, Mar 14, 2015.
... and the mono version rocks!
To me, their 1962-1969 recording career is broadly three categories (stylewise): Early, Middle and Late. Early (more conventional beat group) goes from Love Me Do to Beatles For Sale and the "I Feel Fine" single. The middle period (most experimental) starts with "Ticket to Ride" and ends with Magical Mystery Tour. . The late period (all over the place musically, with a more individualistic approach marked by increasingly divergent styles among the songwriters) is basically everything from 1968 on. There are subsections, because even within those periods they developed and changed and had ups and downs.
That music dividing line coincides with the change of main balance engineer in the studio from Norman Smith (rock solid but more traditional engineer) to Geoff Emerick (more experimental).
Yeah but Norman Smith engineered Rubber Soul which was very experimental. It had the sitar, fuzz guitar, harpsichord effect, and more dark lyrics. I think some of the Norman Smith era was very experimental.
I put the beginning of the last half at the release of Rubber Soul.
Actually no. All of those things happened AFTER Revolver.
Remember Revolver came out on august 15, 1966
End of live concerts- August 29, 1966
Change of style- February 1967 w/ SFF and Penny Lane single
End of individual capitol albums- Sgt Pepper. Revolver in the US was missing 3 tracks
John meeting Yoko
As you can see, all of these events happened AFTER Revolver so really, the late era starts with Sgt Pepper.
To me, the bridge between Beatles For Sale and Help is the end of what I consider the early Beatles era. I think of The Beatles as existing in four fairly distinct eras -- early rock, folk rock, psychedelic rock and late rock -- although there is some overlap. Particularly at the end there. The early solo years are a sort of a "fifth Beatles era" but that's just my skewed view of their history...
Norman Smith claimed he wasn't a fan of the music on Rubber Soul, all that experimentation, which is why he quit as their recording engineer after that. I always found it funny that Normal didn't like Rubber Soul yet went on to produce Pink Floyd's early stuff which is even more experimental
Sgt Pepper on.
Early is pre-Pepper. Why? Because they went downhill from there. Just my opinion.
A single but not a love song
I see three stages. Early (PPM - Help!) Mid (RS-Sgt Pepper) Late (White album onwards). If dividing into two stages Revolver was the transition for me.
For me, the early period ended with Help! and the late period began with Revolver. Rubber Soul stands alone as an offshoot which would have taken them in a completely different direction had their collective mojoes led them there.
Sgt Pepper. PERIOD
Nowhere Man and Think for Yourself weren't Love songs.
Yeah but you stated in the original comment how Norman Smith was a more traditional engineer. Even though he didn't like rubber Soul, he still did a lot of experimental stuff.
Norman Smith also went on to produce the Pretty Thing's psychedelic recordings, especially "S. F. Sorrow" (1968), which is a link between "Sgt. Pepper" (1967) and "Tommy" (1969). Some of the singles that he produced were milestones of psychedelia, like "See Emily Play" and "Defecting Grey".
Anything after Revolver is late era and not a fan..
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