Who has tube-rolled Audio Note amps?

I think I'll give those Telefunkens a try then Steve, thanks again for the Amperex recommendation too.
Just incredible what a difference tubes can make.

 

I like the sound of that a lot: keeping it simple.
I know what I like, and I think you and I share a similar appreciation for natural sound, so having your insight certainly seems to save me a lot of experimenting and cash. The Amperex recommendation was spot-on.
I could see tube rolling becoming an obsession for some.

 

I'm learning as I go, thanks to more learned people than I (like you and others) here.
Any suggestions for my EL84 output tubes? Or are the Sovteks just fine?

 

Power tubes won't last like the signal tubes, but they will also alter the presentation of the amp. You will be forced to try different combinations in that regard if you keep the amp, or keep buying the stock tubes. Check with the manufacturer though to see what is approved in the circuit. They can also change the power of your amp. I wonder what some NOS Cifte 7320s would sound like?

 

I'll do some research, thanks again Steve.
At this point I'm loving the sound and in no rush to change the stock EL84s the Oto has now.

 

In current production, I almost always tend to like Genalex, JJ, and Tung-Sol over Sovtek. I haven't used any of them in an Oto, but my preference has been remarkably consistent across el84 amps. The Genalex are the priciest of the bunch. The others are dirt cheap by NOS tube standards. Well matched quads of all three will run you just over two hundred bucks, and then you can play with them until you're bored.

 

Hoi people,i am new on the forum and already learned more about Audionote tube amp's and tube rolling.
I bought an AN sut and thought that's it.
But i liked it so much that i bought à phono Riaa.
And now i am going to order the Soro SE.
So you are saying it's better to leave the tubes in the phono Riaa and start with amp.
Because i do not know what tubes they put in.(at Audionote)
Are they using NOS-tubes or some Russian or Chinese tubes?
I have à tube amp now and i like Genelex Gold Lion but in à push pull.6550.
Now i will need 6L6G tubes,but where to start,pre amp?or leave the originals in?
I am Dutch but it,s hard to find Amperex or Philips tubes.(Might give them à ring and ask if they have got some left somewhere.)
Please continue the conversations about Audionote as i started to like their stuff so much that i sold my Linn/Naim/Linn set (with LP-12 and Isobariks)
All the best with your equipment Cor Rotterdam

 

Hi Cor Bulsing, welcome to the Forum. I had a complete Nagra/Verity Audio set up and bought some AN ICs and thought that's it. But I liked it so much, that I ended up with a complete AN system. I haven't rolled tubes yet, so I can't help you there.

 

Fascinating. Thanks for posting.

 

Brent Jessee has a supply of Amperex El84 D-getter used pulls. They test well and sound amazing.

 

Orange Globe with "Made In Holland" printed on them often show up on counterfeits. Look at the side of the plates, if there is a hole on the front AND the back the tube is Japanese.

 

My AN UK M1 RIAA Phono should be arriving by the end of January (hopefully, I ordered it in early September), and I'll be using the stock tubes in it for at least a month before I start 'rolling. That said, while I'm comfortable with what to look for in the Amperex and Telefunken ECC83(12ax7) tube, I'm not familiar with the ECC88 dual-triode that it shares the output stage with. I've found what seem to similar (equivalent) quality NOS tubes online:

http://tubeworldexpress.com/search?q=6dj8+holland

http://www.thetubestore.com/Tubes/6922-E88CC-Tube-Types/Telefunken-E88CC-6922

I'm thinking these will be great matches?

 

Stock Sovteks (that the amp shipped with) for the power section, and a pair of matched (within two per cent) NOS 1966 Amperex Heerleen, Holland factory Orange Globes for the input section. Loving the sound.





Waiting on some Dario Miniwatts for my M1 RIAA phono stage...

 

Agreed. The Sovteks in the power stage are great. Are you going to 'roll the standard Oto?

 

Sweet.
Sounds like a great Friday you've got lined up Steve, cheers.

 

Well, I thought I had a nice new production tube set-up on my Audio Note OTO SE Line Signature Integrated -- Sovtek EL84M and Gold Lion B759. But I can't get the Sovteks to last more than 6 months without some kind of tube failure. I'm thinking of going back to the standard Sovtek EL84 and splurging on the Mullard CV4004. Any other ideas out there?

 

(NOS Mullard CV4004)