Who should (and shoudn't) have been on the Sgt. Pepper cover?

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  1. JozefK

    JozefK Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Should:

    1. The Goons -- IMHO the most glaring omission

    2. Elvis -- Come to think of it, the early rockers are all very conspicuous in their absence

    3. James Dean

    4. Jack Kerouac

    5. Peter Cook and Dudley Moore -- preferably in character as "Pete & Dud" the pub philosophers. John was a fan and appeared on their TV show.

    5. Noel Coward

    6. Isadora Duncan

    7. Ian Fleming -- preferably the classic photo of him with the cigarette holder

    8. Christine Keeler -- no explanation necessary

    9. Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis

    10. Fatty Arbuckle and Virginia Rappe

    11. Christine Jorgensen

    12. Robert Mitchum -- the classic pic of him smirking while walking out the jailhouse doors

    13. Pete Best?!?

    Shoudn't:

    1. All those obscure painters chosen by the album designers

    Of course Leo Gorcey should have been on the cover, but he demanded a fee for the use of his likeness. How much of a fee is unclear -- even Wikipedia can't agree with itself on it: the Pepper article says $400, while the Gorcey article says $5,000!
     
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  2. numer9

    numer9 Beatles Apologist

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    Me
    Shouldn't:
    Me
     
  3. ajsmith

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    No.1 is of course, PETE BEST. The other major Ex - Beatle was also on the cover, and it's not like they'd forgotten about Pete at the time, JOHN'S WEARING HIS DAD'S MEDALS. The least they could have done to thank the Bests for their contribution would be to stick Pete's mug on the front.
     
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  4. ajsmith

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    Weird coincidence: up until last week, I always thought this creepy clownish face was Fatty Arbuckle: I googled it and found it it's actually supposed to be Oliver Hardy. (either that or John Wayne Gacy).


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  5. Arnold Grove

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    I always wondered why they didn't put some of the founding fathers of rock and roll on the cover. They put Dion (which was an unusual choice), but why didn't they have Chuck Berry or Little Richard or Buddy Holly? And why didn't George insist on Carl Perkins?
    Maybe they purposefully avoided picking any early rockers, though. But why?
     
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  6. ajsmith

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    What's weird is that Dion made the cut; hardly seems like the primary first wave rock influence on The Beatles. Did they even cover any of his songs?
     
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  7. ajsmith

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    Good catch - very strange none of them made it.
     
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  8. ajsmith

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    I can't see why they'd want these two on the front. Coward famously dissed the Beatles on a couple of occassions:

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    and afaik (please correct me if I'm wrong) none of the Beatles were particularly interested in Bond - in fact the only connection between the two British institutions I can think of is again, this famously short sighted diss by 007 in Goldfinger:

     
  9. Sordel

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    Yes, there's a connection there but since George Martin worked extensively with Sellers & Milligan it would have looked like cheap product placement.

    George Formby should have been on the cover and it would be have been cool if Bruce Forsyth had been on the cover.
     
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  10. ajsmith

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    Yeah, that could be a reason - George Martin might have vetoed their inclusion, although if so I think he was erring on the side of caution as I don't think anyone would have seen it that way.
     
  11. Psyre

    Psyre Forum Resident

    Perhaps one's understanding of why those who made it on the cover and for what reason may be off?
     
  12. ajsmith

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    Er, well apart from 'Live And Let Die', of course :whistle: Oops. But that was later.
     
  13. Sordel

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    Perhaps one is just shooting the breeze on an internet forum? No need for peer review on idle chatter.
     
  14. lavalamp3

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    When I was younger I found it odd that they'd chosen Sonny Liston over Cassius Clay, whom I'd presumed they'd got on famously with on their first U.S. visit. I wonder now whether it was perhaps a political decision to omit Cassius/Muhammad? I'm not 100% sure of the timing but had he already been banned for refusing the draft?
     
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  15. John B Good

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    Little Richard

    Eleanor Rigby

    Nowhere Man

    If not Bond, Patrick McGoohan
     
  16. jamesmaya

    jamesmaya Senior Member

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    Ravi Shankar?
     
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  17. Aghast of Ithaca

    Aghast of Ithaca Forum Resident

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    Donald Campbell. He blew his mind out in a car.
     
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  18. mc7t

    mc7t Forum Resident

    George Martin
    Brian Epstein
     
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  19. ShockControl

    ShockControl Bon Vivant and Raconteur!

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    There should be an app that adds your picture to the cover.
     
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  20. JoeF.

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    It's actually a gentle slam at the Fabs, but weird because didn't George Martin have something to do wit the soundtrack of Goldfinger ?
     
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  21. JoeF.

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    Looks like Hulk Hogan between Laurel & Hardy...
     
  22. Daniel Plainview

    Daniel Plainview God's Lonely Man

    You dare question the Beatles judgement in regards to Dion's inclusion?
     
  23. JozefK

    JozefK Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    http://wwart.w.fab4com/sgt_pepper_shoot.htm

    Not everybody. I never heard about Elvis before.

    I may not be alone:

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  24. Psyre

    Psyre Forum Resident

    No disrespect intended, only attempting to broaden the search and understanding. It's a fun subject, was only trying to promote deeper digging :righton:
     
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  25. Sordel

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    That's fair (& normally I'd agree with you) but with such a mixed set of people on the cover already I think this thread should be more about "who feels right" because it would be impossible to come up with a hard & fast rule set given the set of people that is already included.
     
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