This post is not meant to be a slight against the collective tastes of this forum but it's just something I've noticed in general, both online and in real life - that the majority of people, serious music lovers included, don't get seriously into classical music until they're well past 30, if they do at all. Even on here, Eddie Williamson and myself must be among the youngest regulars on Classical Music Corner! There seems to be this strange obstacle regarding the whole of classical (and even jazz to a lesser extent) that makes it forbidding and eseoteric to many, yet the likes of Bach, Mozart, Chopin etc. if anything are harmonically simpler and/or easier on the ears than, say, Pet Sounds, much of prog rock, post-punk, alt rock and a lot of non-traditional heavy metal. The same problem is prevalent on the Rate Your Music general forum, probably more so, given its younger demographic; most classical music threads there tend to die out pretty fast after just one or two pages, and the majority of them are on the lines of someone who is relatively new to classical music and looking for recommendations (funny how classical is basically treated as one big genre - you'd virtually never get the same kind of thread started by a rock or even a jazz newbie). So just asking as someone who has listened to and loved classical music since age 10, what is the problem with this music that has made it inaccessible for so many for so long? Are people just more attuned to music with lyrics and rock beats, is it partly a matter of upbringing (like if your parents only listened to the popular classical hits, the rest being mainly big band jazz, vocal pop, older rock), or a case of peer pressure during one's younger days (ie admitting to listening to music which you can't stand up and groove to and where you have to sit still and be quiet during concerts was/is considered uncool amongst rock-minded friends/work colleagues)?