Why Was Eleanor Rigby Picking Up Rice?

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  1. Slokes

    Slokes Cruel But Fair Thread Starter

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    The line from the opening stanza of "Eleanor Rigby" has long buzzed at me:

    Eleanor Rigby picks up the rice in the church where a wedding has been
    Lives in a dream
    Waits at the window, wearing the face that she keeps in a jar by the door
    Who is it for?


    For what reason was she picking up the rice? Was it edible? Was it for sentimental reasons? Was she the church warden keeping the place spiffy? Or was it not meant to be taken literally, in the same way no doubt that face in the jar isn't?

    Whatever feedback you can provide would be much appreciated.
     
  2. blind_melon1

    blind_melon1 An erotic adventurer of the most deranged kind....

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    I think it's one of many lines in the song written to paint a picture/image of Eleanor's loneliness.

    I get the impression that Eleanor is alone when picking up the pieces of rice.
     
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  3. Traxinet

    Traxinet Active Member

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    I always took that line to indicate Eleanor's overarching loneliness and almost subservience--she has to clean up the mocking aftermaths of symbolic happiness.
     
  4. Thomas D

    Thomas D Forum Resident

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    She's a lonely person, living in a dream. She's living other people's happiness vicariously.
     
  5. Nobby

    Nobby Senior Member

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    Well it's usually confetti thrown at weddings, but rice is a reasonable substitute and is sometimes used!

    I guess she's wishing it was her wedding.
     
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  6. swedgin

    swedgin Forum Resident

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    Rice is thrown at weddings as a symbol of fertility and prosperity.
     
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  7. blind_melon1

    blind_melon1 An erotic adventurer of the most deranged kind....

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    Rice throwing at weddings is a centuries old tradition :)
     
  8. John B Good

    John B Good Forum Hall Of Fame

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    "Rice is nice, when violins play" (the Lemon Pipers)
     
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  9. John Egan

    John Egan Active Member

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    Maybe she was a bird lover. You should never throw rice because birds eat it, then it expands inside them and they die.
     
  10. SgtMacca

    SgtMacca New Member

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    That's exactly her reason to pick up the rice.
     
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  11. blind_melon1

    blind_melon1 An erotic adventurer of the most deranged kind....

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    This is nothing more than a popular myth.
     
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  12. Gems-A-Bems

    Gems-A-Bems Forum Resident

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    Not true.


    edit: Pinch, poke, you owe me a Coke
     
  13. Slokes

    Slokes Cruel But Fair Thread Starter

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    That's very true. And Paul of course cares about animals. But how well was the danger of uncooked rice to birds understood in the 1960s?
     
  14. Slokes

    Slokes Cruel But Fair Thread Starter

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    It can't be good for the birds, though. Bread isn't good for them either, but it's at least digestible.
     
  15. blind_melon1

    blind_melon1 An erotic adventurer of the most deranged kind....

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    Oh definitely don't go a substitute good seed for rice or bread! It may not be good for them, but it certainly doesn't make them explode!
     
  16. Brother_Rael

    Brother_Rael Senior Member

    On a similar theme, I've often wondered why they weigh pies somewhere over the rainbow. Any insight on that little nugget would be very welcome.
     
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  17. zebop

    zebop Well Known Stranger

    Probably a lonely spinster collecting a remnant of a ceremony she thinks she'll never have.
     
  18. Jim G.

    Jim G. Geezer with a nice stereo!

    I always thought she was poor and hungry. Picking up the rice to take home and cook. The term "keeps her face in a jar" by the door. Face in a jar refers to a jar of makeup. I think.
     
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  19. dickens12@excite

    dickens12@excite Forum Resident

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    Ewww! Eating rice off the ground?
     
  20. vonwegen

    vonwegen Forum Resident

    You'd better ask Ringo, as I read somewhere it was his one lyrical contribution to the song...
     
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  21. JA Fant

    JA Fant Well-Known Member

    Agreed-

    she was attending a wedding.
     
  22. CaptBeyond

    CaptBeyond Well-Known Member

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    Far less stressful for her than trying to Pick Up A Man.

    Or perhaps an OCD complex.
     
  23. andrewm7

    andrewm7 New Member

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    I always took her to be cleaning up the mess other people made while celebrating.
     
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  24. dwmann

    dwmann Well-Known Member

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    Picture an old woman all alone in a church, cleaning up the leftover rice that was thrown at a happy couple after a wedding. Contrast the loneliness of the empty church with the joyousness of the wedding. Contrast the old woman all alone with the throngs of people that attended the wedding shortly before. It's a pretty bleak picture.

    Also, when Paul sings "ER, wearing the face that she keeps in a jar by the door, who is it for?" insinuates that even though ER puts on makeup to greet the world it's a futile exercise, because there is no one else around to know or care that she does so.
     
  25. Siegmund

    Siegmund Vinyl Sceptic

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    It's a nice double-meaning. 'Face in a jar' coudl indeed refer to a jar of making up; women sometimes talk about 'putting on my face' when they put on make-up. On the other hand, it could refer to putting on her all-purpose public expression, the one she uses when interacting with the world - part of her outfit that's kept by the door, along with coat, hat, shoes, etc.
     
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