Yoko Ono joins the war on terror.....

yes yoko's minions constantly scan discussion threads

Believe it or not, yoko or her minions are constantly searching the internet beatles/music discussion threads, be careful what you post, especially if it is negative.

I have received some threatening emails "mind your own business" after having post something about YOko on a different Beatles discussion group (not under this name).

Also, I had a "want it now" request on ebay for a copy of "the real yoko ono" and someone complained that this infringed on certain copyrights because this program hasn't been released yet on DVD. It only aired once in the US on BRAVO back in march 2001.

My request got removed from ebay. so she or her minions are checking.

especially in the aftermath of Tony Bramwell's new book "magical mystery tours" in which he portrays Yoko in a negative (but it's all true) light. She's trolling because she wants to do damage control from cynthia lennon's upcoming tell-all book that's being published in Aug/Sept.

ACtually, she's quite a dangerous person in my opinion, more dangerous than the average Beatles fan has any idea. She'll call up her friends at the FBI to break into anyone's house if she thinks that person has something she wants. (remember eliot mintz was ex-fbi)

just a fyi

 

also, john lennon worked incredibly hard on Yoko's songs on DF so they are not as bad as they would be otherwise.

Without John, Yoko's songs on DF would be much worse. As it is, I know folks who routinely cut out Yoko's songs on DF because they can't stand her voice, or her music.

 

Well, I've never heard a thing from her, and this kid hasn't always been kind...

Just finished reading Tony's book...fascinating stuff! He wasn't kind to Yoko either, but of course this is his opinion; others might have differing viewpoints about who she is and how it all went down. He might be right on, wouldn't surprise me any.

You're an X-FILES fan, right?

 

One of my friends hung out with Yoko in NYC and he said she was the greatest! He expected her to be strange and abrasive but he found her to be sweet and funny and very gracious. She's also been wonderful to Lennon's fans...giving them one or two new releases every year, while other widows (such as Gail Zappa) have vaults full of unreleased material and do practically nothing with it. I think her musical work proves that she's got real balls, and she's not just some wierdo professional wife who screams a lot.

 

She is an artist simple as that....what u see/hear is what you get from it... Thats why John was so taken with her.


sean

 

Steve,
The fact that she is nice to talk to in person doesn't mean that she isn't "dangerous." It is very evident that she is into rewriting history to improve her place and/or to remove the place of others. Just ask May Pang and Julian Lennon. Watch the recently released Lennon videos to see the changes that remove May Pang.
She is also changing history by remxing John's albums. I know that this has been discussed before, but IMO she has no right to tamper with John's work, even if she was his wife. She didn't ask his permission.

I also heard Paul McCartney say in an interview that he met Yoko before John did and that he told Yoko to approach John. She was looking for financial support for an artistic endeavor. Yoko has said MANY times that she didn't know who The Beatles were when she met John. If you believe that I have a bridge to sell you.

I applaud her for being very pro-peace and for giving much money to charity. Other than that I consider her to be "dangerous."

 

I like Yoko. I own all of her albums - and enjoy them - and also respect her as an artist. I am also grateful for all the unreleased music and film footage she has chosen to share with John's fans. I also enjoy the remixed albums although I agree with others that the original mixes should be available.

I am sure if I ever had the chance to meet her, she would be warm and gracious. That being said, she is not a person I would want to cross.

 

Since I posted to this thread, I'm gonna start wearing my kevlar vest just to be safe.

 

Of course John was also taking acid and smoking pot at the time....

 

...so were a heck of a lot of other folks too! Those experiences didn't cause Yoko to be endared for me, as a musical artist. Hey man, I must'a got weak acid...

 

All it took for me was hearing WEDDING ALBUM, and left wondering "Why, God, Oh Why?!?"...

 

I'd say about the same!

 

Can you offer an exact quote and source?

 

Antidote for WEDDING ALBUM: "Cold Turkey." And on the 45 label it said, PLAY LOUD. On WEDDING ALBUM, should've read: DO NOT PLAY....

 

No, I can't at this moment. If I can find something when I get home I'll do so. I believe Paul mentioned this while on the Howard Stern show, although that was not the first time he said it, IIRC.

 

David,

yes, Yoko can be very sweet and charming in person. let me stay away from my personal opinion of her and instead focus on her actions instead since actions speak louder than words. For example, I have heard horror stories about Yoko using FB*I to dig up dirt and harass, intimidate folks like jack douglas who had to sue her to recover over $4 million of royalties that Yoko refused to pay in the early eighties even though she had signed a contract with John giving Jack a certain percentage. Since Eliot Mintz was one of her closest friends and always appears in interviews to support Yoko's version, his being ex-fbi and Yoko employing several ex-fbi folks before john got shot does look suspicious to me. John hated Eliot, couldn't stand the man. If Eliot came over, John would go into a different room. No, i'm not pulling that out of thin air, folks like fred seaman, ken geringer and others all affirm. JOhn put up with eliot to please Yoko. enought of eliot.

here's an excerpt from tony bramwell''s book in which it is quite clear that Yoko knew who John Lennon was and the Beatles and paul were before her famous first meeting with John.

It's unbelievable the discrepancy between Yoko's
version and Tony Bramwell's version of John's first
meeting Yoko back in Nov 1966 at the Indica Gallery.
John has to physically break free and run for his life
to get away from YOko. If you have a few minutes,
you'll find the excerpt from Tony's new book very
interesting about their first meeting!

since I took the time and trouble to
handtype the excerpt from Tony Bramwell's new book on
the Beatles "Magical Mystery Tours" about the true
story of what really happened when John met Yoko at
the INdica gallery, I thought this excerpt might be
helpful and/or of interest to your producers for the
upcoming John Lennon special. here it is:

Yoko in "Lennon the Musical" portrays their first
meeting as when John fell in love with Yoko and their
"eyes magically connected" because "their minds
connected." In "Lennon the Musical" Yoko says she had
never heard of the Beatles before or John Lennon and
didn't know who "john lennon" was until her friend
John Dunbar brought John Lennon into her exhibit and
pointed John out to Yoko. Tony Bramwell's version is
completely opposite that of Yoko's version of events.

Here is what Tony writes for the record:

Page 175, Tony Bramwell, "Magical Mystery Tours"

"Soon Yoko would meet John in person. Dr. Asher and
Paul had financed John Dunbar and Peter Asher,
enabling them to set up Indica, their little art
gallery-cum-bookshop, in commercial premises at
Mason's Yard in St. James. They decided that they
would paint the basement white and hold art
exhibitions in it. Through her sponsor, Barry Miles,
Yoko finally got her foot through the door into the
world of the Beatles by getting Dunbar and Peter to
stage her show, "Unfinished Paintings and Objects" as
their opening exhibition. Yoko hadn't made any of
these herself. Instead, she got some art students
from the Royal Academy to do so. After she had
finished arranging the sparse objects--an apple on a
stand with a hefty price ticket, a couple of her empty
sacks lying on the floor, a plank with nails hammered
in---Yoko turned to Dunbar and, apparently thinking on
her feet, invented, "John Lennon said he might come to
the exhibition. Why not ask him to a private preview?
He's a millionaire, he might buy something."

Dunbar did telephone, and John agreed that he might
drop in on the way to the studio next day. Everyone
imagined that John was living in a whirlwind of fun,
but he felt isolated and was often quite bored and
lonely. Quite simply, he didn't get many invitations
from close friends or people he knew and could trust.
When Dunbar called, it could well have been the only
invitation John got all week.

The following day, the man himself drifted down the
stairs to the basement. He later told me about what
he saw, which bemused but did not amuse him. As an
art student, he had seen tons of this kind of what I
call intellectual fakery and, in John's words, "didn't
dig it." The story is now legend of how he stood
hesitantly and glanced across at where Yoko and a
couple of others sat crosslegged on the floor,
stitching the sacks like jailbirds. John himself said
he was on the point of leaving when Yoko jumped up and
placed herself between him and the stairs. She asked
who he was.

John stared. Amazed, Dunbar said, "It's John Lennon,
of course."

Yoko shrugged. She said, "Oh," as if she had never
heard the name before. I think when the story went
the rounds that John must have been the only person in
London who didn't hear it.

She handed him a small card. It said, "Breathe."
John peered at it shortsightedly, then took a couple
of breaths and handed the card back. Once again he
turned to leave, but he wasn't quick enough. Yoko got
inside his guard. She took his arm and guided him to
one of her stepladders, which had been painted white
and positioned in the center of the room. "This is
Ceiling Painting," she said.

"Yeah?" John peered upward. He couldn't see a
painting. All he could see was a framed pane fastened
horizontally against the ceiling; it appeared to be
blank. Dangling from the frame was a small magnifying
on a chain. Suddnely curious, John climbed up, picked
up the magnifying glass and looked through it. On a
postage stamp-sized card in the center of the frame he
saw three miniature block letters: YES. Swaying
giddily on the ladder with his head bent backward, he
felt spacey. He gazed at the word for several
seconds.

Back down, Yoko took his arm again and guided him to
the plank, labeled HAMMER A NAIL IN. He picked up the
hammer that was provided. Yoko quickly said, "You
can't do that until the exhibition opens."

Dunbar said, "Oh, go on, let him. He might not come
back tomorrow."

"Very well. You may hammer one nail in, for five
shillings," Yoko agreed.

John, who never carried a scrap of change, reached
into his pocket. "imaginary money for an imaginary
nail," he said. Yoko smiled faintly.

John said to me later, "That was when we clicked. I
saw what she was about, and she saw what I was about.
And the 'yes' on the ceiling. It was like,
affirmative, none of these negative vibes I keep
getting off people."

It was hardly surprising that John felt some kind of
electricity; but it was probably the air crackling
with Yoko's desperation. She needed to hook a big
fish. Since arriving in England, she had thrown
herself into a fervor of Fluxus-style self-promotion
and networking, but none of it earned any money.
After outstaying their welcome in the homes of a
series of acquaintances who had put them up, before
losing patience and evicting them, she and her husband
were broke, now living hand to mouth in a large empty
flat they couldn't afford. A similar history of
evictions and moonlight flits had ensured that she had
nowhere to return to in New York--apart from her
parents' house where her husband wasn't welcome. To
me, that says it all, because parents always go that
extra mile. She urgently needed a wealthy patron.
She had already tried other wealthy men like Paul and
Brian, who derided her work. I don't know who else
she had hit on, but miraculously, karma put John in
her sights at exactly the right moment, when her
female intuition told her he was looking for
something, even if he didn't know it. It would become
clear that she didn't intend to let him escape.

When John said he was late for the studio, Yoko
clutched him tighter by the arm and coyly lisped,
"Take me with you!"

However, John was used to women hitting on him and
Yoko was skinny, plain and older than he was. She
didn't look anything like his dream babe, Brigitte
Bardot. There was no earthly reason why he should be
attracted to Yoko and told me--and also Cynthia--that
he wasn't. He pulled free and ran up the stairs,
pursued by Yoko. His black Mini Cooper with tinted
windows was waiting. John jumped in, slammed the door
and the car took off. If his driver, Les Anthony,
hadn't been so quick on the getaway, John said she
would have jumped in with him. As the Mini shot out
of Mason's Yard, Yoko stood on the cobbles staring
after it.

Page 178

One would have expected that it would have been John
at galleries and events, but it was Paul who was
immersing himself in all things weird, wonderful and
new.

When John came up to town and saw what Paul was up to,
the old sense of competition kicked in and he started
dropping by galleries as well. In this way, he came
to bump into Yoko again, and made a point of ignoring
her. I got the impression that John actively disliked
her. He told me that he thought she was incredibly
pushy; perhaps he was afraid that she might grab his
arm again and squeak, "Take me with you!" If I were
standing about with him, Yoko would come up to me and
say in her high little girl's voice, perhaps hoping to
get John to notice her, perhaps hoping that I would
suggest putting her on at the Saville again, but I
didn't like her either and made it plain. John would
walk off to talk to someone else, while she stared
after him. In those days, Yoko was always staring
after John.

end of chapter 13

 

Who said the spirit of Albert Goldman isn't alive and well?

 

I'm with Steve here on the Yoko factor, but that aside, methods like this are known not to work.

It's "funny" that they're using music like this to put stress upon the prisoners?

Why am I the only one who is a little disappointed that we aren't a little more high tech or results oriented?

 

Be thankful they don't use it on their own citizens....

I'm kinda disapppointed too...we could use the Plasmatics, Velvet Underground(WL/WH, & NICO), Captain Beefheart, The Legendary Stardust Cowboy, or William Hung instead....

I mean, why just use Yoko's stuff when there's so much more out there....

 

No kidding. I've been pretty obvious in my disdain for Yoko's musical "talent", but this stuff is absolutely screwball.